So, lets say we get to August or some summer month, and 4,000,000 people are protesting right out front the white house.
Do they send in the tanks? Do they kill 1,000,000 people? Would republican civilians see empathy for the dead americans who were democrats? Or would it unite the nation like 9/11 did, except this time against the government?
I downvote your comments because they’re pointless nitpicking, not because you say “that’s not enough.” If you had said, “Also, train, join an org, and read theory” I wouldn’t be downvoting you. Instead you said, “lol buying a gun won’t fix anything” and dismissed the suggestion as “individualist consumerism.” That’s not “going further.”
I’m sorry that the pithy ending to a comment that was primarily about the history of Kent State was not a detailed outline of every possible tactic that could be effective at resisting.
Yeah, I agree, you really fucked up the ending to an otherwise good post.
No, I didn’t. You just randomly decided to start attacking me based on a bunch of flimsy bullshit.
You ruined the entire post by ending it with a poorly thought out conclusion. “Buy more ovaltine” level of dumb at the end. All you have to do to change my mind is edit the ending to something not as dumb.
Yes, it’s exactly the same as telling people to buy ovaltine. Ovaltine will definitely help you kill fascists just as much as a gun will.
Your position is so fucking stupid, and every angle you tried to defend it from has fallen apart under the tiniest bit of scrutiny. Including this one.
Thanks debate-me-bro so glad to have you on my side. I can’t wait for the glorius revolution where we all look at the guns on our mantles and jack off to them.
Lmao! Too much of a clown for me to even satirize you.
I clearly went too far because I was satirizing your mischaracterization of other people’s arguments that you really didn’t address but said you did (powerful obama giving a medal to obama meme energy).
I’m obviously more of a syndicalist. Buying “a” gun won’t do anything meaningful in and of itself. We need some people to buy a lot of guns and ammo. Not everybody needs to buy a gun, there’s more guns than people here as it is. The gun threshold, if anything has already been reached. If it gets to the guns mattering we’ve already lost a thousand battles.
We need lots of people thinking about each other. We need people thinking about things like food, water, waste, etc. Like the US government has never caved because somebody shot a bullet at them. They cave because airports get shutdown, because trash stops being collected. The guns help if it goes further, but the step before the guns is the determinate on whether the guns will work or not.
Like a bunch of military drones come through your door you won’t even have the opportunity to kill a single fascist. You’re just dead, killed by a guy essentially playing a video game. A missile is the same thing. There’s no heroic fantasy where just owning a gun lets people takedown a fascist.
My main real issue is the one size fits all prescription. “Buy a gun” is just so overly simplistic and dumb and we more than likely have enough.
Whose arguments did I mischaracterize in the initial comment I made? The National Guard’s? What a load of horseshit, you came out of the gate attacking me for no reason.
What does it matter if one person buys 10 guns to give to 10 people, or if 10 people buy their own guns? The end result is the same. You’re just putting ideological hangups before pragmatism.
None of which is precluded by buying a gun.
Neither of these is correct. For example, the US government caved when the NVA shot a bunch of bullets at them. They also have the capability of suppressing strikes at gunpoint, if it comes to that. Just as they did the student demonstrators at Kent State. Strikes can be effective, but if you have no capability to fight back, then it’s not likely to be enough.
Of course. I never disputed that. But they aren’t sending drones or launching missiles, they’re sending people.
That’s just obviously false. Are fascists impervious to bullets now? Is Charlie Kirk still alive, then?