• Jesus_666@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Both options are potentially bad for low-income earners. If you force them to pay for a speed limiter they lost the money for that, which they might not able to afford. If you take away their license they will have difficulty getting around and might lose their job.

    So from that perspective the speed limiter might be the less dangerous choice.

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      1 day ago

      Pattern of excessive speeding and low income doesn’t seem like it’s going to have a lot of overlap.

      Those tickets add up and insurance rates spike so if they are a low income driver they’re already wasting far more money on their bad driving havens than what this device is going to cost.

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        7 hours ago

        Sounds like someone has never had to beat traffic to get to a second job… or a doctor’s appointment because your boss kept you late… or pick the kids up from school on time because you can’t afford childcare/after school activities… or get home to let a spouse drive the car because you can’t afford two cars or…

        Being poor is expensive, time consuming and dangerous.

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          6 hours ago

          This is not targeted at people who have been caught speeding once or twice. It’s targeting habitual and wreckless drivers. If they can afford the cost of these tickets to keep their license from being suspended, they can afford this device.

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      I feel like the better option is to have local government foot the bill - but the driver owes the value of the device if it’s lost or damaged. In theory, insurance would have to cover at least some of this (given it’d be wired into the car) and they can still use their car. AND if they drive safely, they should owe nothing long-term.

      That’s idealistic though. I’m sure the “tough on crime” crowd would want the individual to foot the bill despite it making everyone safer.

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        2 days ago

        Or you could go for a tiered scheme where the device is free if the owner’s income is below a certain level. There’s always options; whether or not they’re taken is another question.

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          2 days ago

          That’s a really good point. Sliding scale payment maybe (with no cap on income - if you make a million bucks a year and are always speeding, you’re going to be paying a hefty fine)

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      2 days ago

      People on a budget can just slow the fuck down. Speeding tickets are not cheap.

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        2 days ago

        Flip that on its head.

        Rich people can speed however much they want because who cares about a little fine?

        That’s why this model sucks.

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          2 days ago

          Yep. Need tickets proportional to income to solve that, and photo radar to solve acab interactions.