Looking for non-US cloud storage. The more paranoid the better!
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Others have suggested: encrypt data on your side and you don’t need to worry about where you store it. Cryptomator is a good option.
As for storage, the feedback on Hetzner boxes seems to be good and i’m happy with mega.What about hetzner storeagebox? https://www.hetzner.com/de/storage/storage-box/ with client side encryption ? It’s cheap and reliable, supports all common file transfer methods - the encryption can and likely should anyway be done by your preferred backup tool?
I can also recommend the object storage from hetzner for backups. Quite price competitive.
pCloud is pretty good, and there is an option for an EU server. It doesn’t have a Linux client though, so now I use Jottacloud, which is hosted in Norway and has a (CLI) Linux client that works quite well! I also have a locally hosted Nextcloud instance as another backup. More backups is always good!
I currently use Infomaniak object storage with restic. I like it since it’s Openstack and if they ever go to shit I can easily switch to another Openstack provider. OVH is also one I have used in the past.
https://ihostart.com/ one of the cheapest I know.
https://ardrive.io/ for a permanent, encrypted, decentralized, blockchain based solution.
A raspberry pi hidden in a wall behind a power socket or in some always plugged in appliance like a fridge or tv at some place with wifi or a phone with a data plan connected to a portable solar charger set up on some roof or tree.
Borg Base offers EU based server locations. They have been awesome to work with.
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They are from the US, no?
Why
Just use client-side encryption, then it doesn’t matter where it goes
Kopia is great for this. Choose your encryption, built in support for different provider storage tyoes in the GUI to choose where to go, dedupe, folder structure scramble, etc…
But their flatpak hasn’t been updated in ages…
I can recommend Hetzner Storage Boxes. The company is located in Germany, but you can choose server locations in Germany and in Finland. You can set it up with Rclone’s Crypt feature to encrypt all your files.
I’ve been using Hetzner boxes for my backups, although I did need to send them a copy of my id, which may or may not fit the paranoia thing.
Of course, encryption is always worth it.
They never asked me for that (UK here). Was up and running with just the basics in minutes. Are you on a list? 😅
They do have a waiting/payment cycle period on their server offering before they’ll open mail ports. Once you qualify, you still need to raise a ticket to ask. That was a bit annoying as my new ISP is stricter with the ports than prior, meaning I had to wait before my relay workaround could send mail.
Same setup here, Hetzner/Rclone with enc. Script runs daily on the NAS to beam everything up. Very happy.
Make at least one offline copy of what you need to decrypt and keep separate though. An inaccessible encrypted backup is no backup at all.
TIL rclone can encrypt. Storage box also supports borg if someone prefers. Borg is cool. It also deduplicates the archive saving a lot of space.
+1 for Hetzner
I’m using restic to encrypt my files (content + filenames)
Not pricey, e2ee clients, open source, servers in Germany, 10gb free tier to try them out. Been using them for a few years now. The clients used to be a bit crap but they’re very good now.
I haven’t found how to connect Filen’s S3 to BackRest… the only thing keeping me from using the 110 Go I have with them to double backup my local backup on another drive.
Then don’t go to the cloud! (or use encrypted storage if you really have to)
My view: Unless I can access the hardware 24/7/365 the data isn’t mine for ‘they’ can deny me access to my data anytime while they keep full access. (hence store it decryped)
A hard drive in a PO Box; data encrypted. Retrieve it occasionally to sync it with your local storage.
Or family.
This is good, if they:
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- Understand & trust what you’re doing and don’t fiddle with it
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- Don’t understand and just don’t fiddle with it
Luckily I have a family member that fits one of those categories.
I completely get the paranoia component of needing to control all factors involved. I have that too regarding my data. But at some point trust is needed.
PO boxes can burn down. The power grid can fry everything. Even the backup as soon as you plug it in. The government can create a kind of gestapo and let them loose and you won’t have the right to run a server anyways (uh?). Etc…
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if this is for privacy i’d just use the cheapest/fastest option that supports rclone and use its encrypted upload feature.
This. Assuming you are following the 3,2,1 schema, if the big, bad American boogie man gets it, it will be encrypted (useless), and backed up elsewhere.
I use filen and koofr
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Why both? Any preference?
Diff,country ,extra layer for security ,no preference
- shadow.tech (fast, not so expensive)
- Proton Drive
- or look for a managed Nextcloud solution (Murena Workspace, etc.)
