edit: I really want to clarify, I am not upset that people are angry about Epstein. I am not complaining that Americans want more transparency, that they want those involved to be punished for their actions. I am not unhappy that people want to raise more awareness towards the issue of the rich evading the law. I am certainly not trying to argue for the protection of those involved, nor am I trying to make a case for them/“playing devil’s advocate”. I am simply asking the question of why it is brought up so often in off-topic discussion. Why are people interpreting Trump yelling about annexing Canada as “diverting attention from the Epstein files”? Why are his threats towards Greenland and the Panama Canal called similar?

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Everybody can accept that what he and his billionaire friends are horrible people who did horrible things to minors. The implication that so many high-ranking politicians from all over the world is associated with it is very bad indeed. But why do so many Americans seem to be so obsessed with Epstein and his “files”?

It seems like whatever discussion there is, there’s always someone going on about “releasing the files” when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand. And when anything is vaguely about America and its politics (e.g. kidnapping of Maduro), many will claim that it’s because they want to “distract the public from Epstein” or similar, feel good about themselves, and move on without contributing anything to the discussion like some sort of conspiracy theorist who tries to win arguments by saying it’s a conspiracy by the CIA/aliens/lizard people/etc. (side note: who actually believes in lizard people? Is this a joke or do people actually believe in those?) Not everything is about egg head island.

The involvement of so many powerful and rich people is quite bad indeed, and the coverup (suicide and maybe-murder of the guy, the hidden and almost mythical “files” that, even when released, are super redacted, the denial, etc) is concerning too. It is normal to seek out punishment for those involved, to press for more transparency around it, etc., that I can agree with, but it is not normal to justify all the war, conflict, and incitations of invasion that America is doing now, will do later, and has done in the past because of this.

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    because the current administration is made of bullies spewing bullshit. One of the things they kept talking about were the epstein files, and how they were going to finish off the democrats, and if they got voted in , they would release them. they turned them into a talking point.

    If you call them out for being hypocrites on things that they will lie about, like the economy or health or whatever, they will use group consensus and lies to bullshit their way out of it. However, since they demonised anyone related to epstein, and how one of their cornerstone policies was releasing the epstein files, they can’t do that about the epstein files, so it’s useful to beat them over the head with, since trump was in extremely deep with epstein (into people they shouldn’t have been fucking)