I will avoid saying why I’m planning on doing it now only because it will color people’s interpretation of why I’m doing it.
Hopefully my Iran flag will come in time, but it will the a 3’ by 5’ flag and it will tough be 10’ in the air and I will be with other protestors.
I have waves the Palestine flag in multiple previous protests and I get the sense that people don’t recognize it like the LGBT flag
I’m generally against waving the flag of another nation at a protest. Nothing wrong with protesting about those issues—your intention about foreign affairs is just usually a lot clearer with a sign instead of a flag.
I wouldn’t because it is going to get misinterpreted by others. Trump supporters would argue that you’re defending the existing Iranian government.
Someone else suggested an upsidedown American flag, which feels appropriate.
Im not wild about it myself. The protest is about our people wanting to change the way our government and society do things and I feel having foreign flags kinda suggest foreign influence. I mean if people in europe where protesting for the plight of the typical american I would not want them waving american flags because that is a symbol of our country which, like it or not, now includes what our government is currently doing. It does not really represent the current people. Im not big on nationalism though but you kinda gotta fight for what your cultural symbols mean or you will have the folks flying the countries flag along the nazi flag and a failed states flag. Given all that I could totally seeing flying a native american flag if there is one since they are not external.
I could interpret that as Being pro American citizens since all Americans are taught to unite under flag and constitution, I can see wanting to exclude support of the federal government when supporting Americans people.
I was thinking about making a sign that said ZOHRAN 2028 as a way to push more leftist/DSA agenda, but ZOHRAN i thought that would give more credence to crazy Trump 2028 people. Solidarity was a better message anyway
I tend to have an upside down american flag. It might set some of them off but that is because they are ignorant in the use of flags in maritine situations. I figure I can’t really cure ignorance and maybe someone will explain to them at some point what an upsidedown flag means. Besides that my message is its unacceptable to violate the constitution. I mean there is a lot more stuff but its like any project. You got to prioritize.
Yeah I forgot what the upside down flag means. I know backwards flag is meant for running into battle. But educating hundreds of people on upsidedown flag on top of getting out that message would be hard. Protesting is iterative to get as much of what you want out there
That is the thing. Those who don’t look more or engage around it are pretty much a lost cause. Nothing will move them. Those who can manage to look a bit into things can be brought into engagement by finding things out and they might be brought over. My theory anyway.
I will avoid saying why I’m planning on doing it now only because it will color people’s interpretation of why I’m doing it.
Flags are symbolic—they exist to communicate, and the only criterion to judge their appropriateness is whether they communicate the intended message to the intended audience.
Without knowing your intended message, it’s impossible to say whether or not you should use one in a given context.
I know. Kinda want to figure out what someone waving an Iranian flag at a protest would mean to an American.
If I gave my reason then it would add to meaning of waving Iranian flag
I would see it and see someone who is too smart to be caught up in nationalist bullshit: who understands that regardless of one’s feelings about the government of Iran, it’s currently the tip of the spear against the US-zionist empire threatening the world and committing genocide, and is therefore the enemy of my enemy. Because when the world hegemon comes knocking with bombs on girl’s schools, you wage indigenous struggle with the army you have, not the army you want. And the army they have has been shaping itself in anticipation of this for decades, and stands a very good chance at breaking the back of both American imperialism and the occupiers of Palestine: which is why the Resistance there supports them too.
If it’s to support Iranian government, no, if it’s to support Iranian people, yes. If you are not Iranian, maybe leave that to Iranian people or those living/have lived there. Either way there will be people that interpret it one way and people that interpret it another. I’d try to understand the overall purpose of the protest and see if it’s supporting that or distracting from it.
EDIT: I guess there’s a lion and sun flag that can be used to represent the people and not the government. Maybe do a little research about it.
Yeah it just came to my mind that I should wave the old Iranian flag and not the current one since the citizens use it there to protest their government
The lion-and-sun flag is the flag of the old Safavid Empire.
If you want to use a historical flag, a more appropriate one might be the pre-Islamic Sassanid Standard of Kaveh—the flag of the legendary blacksmith who overthrew the tyrant Zahhak. (But that flag has also been used by Iranians protesting the current regime, which may not be the overtone you’re intending.)
Standard of kaveh is pretty cool. Interest to see how people of the past made their flag and history behind it is interesting, but is the average American going to understand that?
It’s hard to invoke a meaning, but I would be cool to bring to a protest and tell protestors about kaveh.
