For example, in The Shield, the cop character Shane is super racist and says the N-word, but when a Black girl is killed, Shane gets really mad and wants to find and kill the killer or bring him to justice. Some CEOs who are straight-up classist would still help their employees, and if their employee dies, they would start funds for their kids. But why? Why would people like this do something ‘good,’ especially when there isn’t anything in it for them?

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    No I do totally understand. For you everything is relative, and everyone is equally innocent and guilty of all things at all times. That’s why it’s moral relativism.

    Non relativism holds that certain acts are irredeemable, and that being nice to your kids wild murdering millions does not qualify you as ‘somewhat good’, anymore than getting a parking ticket makes a non-murderer ‘somewhat bad’.

    It’s not a personal attack, it’s an observation that people who morally relativistic views tend to do some out of their own self interest in the world. Just like psychopaths and sociopaths overwhelmingly tend to be amoral. I don’t know any ‘good’ people who believe in moral relativism… and they rightfully avoid people who who are moral relativist.

    There are tons of people who cartoonishly evil, do you read the news? Half of the USA political class are cartoonishly evil people, and lots of average citizens are as well.

    We clearly live in totally different realities. You seem to like as long as Pol Pot was a nice guy to you, than you can’t condemn him as evil… lol And yeah, if that is your ‘truth’, why would anyone who actually believes in moral judgement want to associate with you? You basically are writing apologia for pedophiles, murders, abusers, and etc, and claiming they aren’t much different morally from people who are genuinely honest and kind to others and work towards making the world genuine a better place.

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      And now you’re completely characterizing my statements and lying to make yourself feel better. Good day.

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        Yeah I am characterizing them as what they are. You articulate a defense of moral relativism, via very pedantic argumentation that equates unpaid parking tickets with murder. And then claim nobody is evil…in a world where objectively evil people are doing objective evil things all the time.

        But hey, I believe in an objective reality and objective morality. Clearly I’m a terrible person, to a moral relativist. Especially when I judge them and dispute them.

        I also notice lemmy has a lot of fan of solipsism who like to argue that they are very smart because there is no reality outside of themselves and you can’t prove to them that there is, and that I am clearly and ignorant fool if I acknowledge there is something outside of my own feelings. A couple of entire instances have this as their credo.