Why don’t they wear suits? And how do other businesspeople take them seriously when they don’t wear suits? It seems super unprofessional.
Wearing a suit isn’t the only way to show power.
Tech used to dress up to the same standards as other professions in the 60’s, with their rules for conformity. Some engineers realized that they were too good to need to conform, so they dressed down, daring their bosses to fire them. Given how valuable the good engineers were, they got to keep their jobs even though they didn’t fully conform to the dress code.
It became a statement of power. Meetings would often be decided on the person worst dressed because they were the valuable tech decision maker.
Fast forward to when Facebook is trying to get its IPO and Mark Zuckerberg is going into meetings with financiers dressed in jeans and a T-shirt. The financiers were all wearing suits, but Zuckerberg didn’t need to because they needed him more than he needed them. Zuckerberg didn’t need to dress up for bankers, bankers needed to dress up for him.
The only time Mark Zuckerberg wore a suit as part of his work was when he was testifying in front of Congress. Why? Because Congress had power over him and that power made Mark dress up.
Why are you calling them your bro?
Suits are just asshole uniforms.
The word professional is so ambiguous as to be effectively meaningless, bearing no resemblance whatsoever to its original definition.
No one but the most shallow and superficial among us cares what you’re wearing. Thinking a suit does anything but make you look self-important and pretentious is an anachronism.
Trend set by Steve Jobs.
This is true. If you’re good at a tech job you don’t need to wear a suit because you’re valuable to the company. Most programmers don’t like to wear suits and don’t wear them if they can get away with not wearing them. Also as a way of setting them apart from sales/legal/management people. Tech bros mostly started out as programmers and kept that habit.Not having to is a status symbol.
That’s the most “normal” thing about them.
I find people that enjoy suits (not the status of them, but the actual physicality of them) to be unhinged.
I hate EVERYTHING about them. Unless I’m going to a sibling’s wedding, there is no reason I will ever wear one again in my life. I’ve hated every second of every time I’ve done so, and cannot imagine someone in their right mind looking it at all.
If I had to do it for work, I’d better consistently be getting $100s of millions a day. And even then I would quit after a week.
I guess you don’t have a tailored suit.
I do have a tailored suit. I rather kick a rock and break my foot then wear it.
They fucking suck absolutely and people who enjoy them are fucked in the head.
“In Silicon Valley, wearing a full business suit marked you as unsophisticated and not ‘with it’ in terms of tech and innovation. This caused the dress code requiring a suit to be inverted and it eventually reached the point where you can’t wear a suit and be taken seriously in Silicon Valley.”
Know who I take seriously? Someone who speaks competently.
An entire class of BS artists exists that specialize in the ability to sound competent, regardless of their lack of any real competence. Talking heads like news anchors, political pundits, podcast hosts, etc. base their success mostly on the ability to fake authority on subjects because most people can’t tell the difference.
Suits are a lot less common in the professional world than they used to be.
I tend to find through my work experience that it depends on a couple of factors, which industry, which department, and how senior they are.
For example when jumping on calls or attending client meetings, the IT peoples, Engineers, anyone technical really is pretty much never in a suit. I don’t have much to do with HR departments, but I to find their 50/50, could be the “chill” HR department where the HR lady is passing off active wear as work clothes, or the strict HR department where they are 100% in suits.
The more senior you get, especially in sales and marketing roles, C-Suite, etc. the far more common suits become again, the only industry I don’t see this so prevalent in is the tech industry, however I don’t work with tech companies too often as they typically have their own people lol.
I know in my role, I only wear a suit or a blazer 3 times a year, and that’s my companies conferences where we have a dress code for the first day.
The real boss wears a Hawaiian shirt and rolls into the office once a quarter.
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