you will own nothing
A cancer doesn’t plan
Thats not very “shareholder value” of you. /s
I have a suspicion they are focusing on short-term goals, because that is what those people usually do. For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop. They didn’t think this through. This isn’t some kind of visionary 4D chess. But it does not matter to them. When wasting 80 billion on a VR project that was doomed to fail from the beginning does not matter, nothing does.
I purposely “watch” ads because I think it’s funny that me doing it causes company’s to think they work and therefore spend more money, I cannot think of a single thing I bought because of an ad, sure some things I have learned about because of ads but if I bought the product it is because I researched the product and it fit with my expectations, most of the time I buy competitive products because my assessment process asigns negative points for ads that annoy me.
For example, it’s probably hard to explain who should watch all the ads and buy all the advertised products when Facebook replaces their content and interactions with bot slop.
Sam Altman owns a company that provides ‘human verification’
We kinda have two choices:
Some flavour of socialism where people get what they need for free
Or
Turbo-rio-de-janiro style inequality where we all live in slums
Now the 2nd one is what the ultra rich want and they have a lot of power, so it’s kinda on the rest of us to make the first happen instead
Option 3 : WW3 and kill off all the poors
Didn’t the French have an option three?
The french fucked up cause they didn’t have option 1 as the follow-up to option 3.
It’s an uphill battle, but it’s better to start early than late.
Unlike before, the rich now have private armies, lobbying groups, and mass surveillance networks while we peasants own nothing. Plus, the pot is slowly boiled.
The rich have always had private armies and spy networks. The technology may have changed, but same old same old.
Data centres notoriously don’t have heads, but I love the enthusiasm
Data centers are made by companies and companies have board of directors who have heads. CEOs have heads.
If Louis so-and-so hadn’t had a head my ancestors would have blown him to bits, that’s also an option for datacenters, just look at Iran !
“maybe the clothes are made of paper. The food is just nutrient paste…”
Or something like that from the Expanse. Sure, your needs are met, but living life on basic assistance seems like a nightmare.
Another fiction to look at could be Star Trek. Pretty much everything materialistic is free. You study and work not to afford your materialistic needs and wants, but for the joy of doing it.
And people do build careers and business, for the joy and the achievement of it.
… just to contrast your idea of badic income meaning barely surviving.
Yeah, the “elite” aren’t actually smart enough to figure that out. Elite is kind of an oxymoron.
No one asked you to use that word to describe them, why are you perpetuating it?
They’re not elite, they’re just rich fuckers who attained massive riches by exploiting the workers’ need for survival.
That’s why they need to horde that much money.
Nobody gets rich or stays rich by hoarding money. That’s not what being wealthy means.
The owners of other robots.
The economy is already morphing to serve the needs of the upper levels of worth. Look at the trend with airlines shrinking economy sections and expanding first class and business class. Pretty much all consumer offerings are moving to the luxury tier.
Vegas is a good example. Increasingly caters to the top 1%.
As long as corporations make products they create value where shareholders make money to buy products
That’s not how things work. If people have to work to buy things, then people not being able to work can’t buy things and the share value drops to $0.
The only way this works is with UBI
Tell it to companies “selling” ram and drives to data centres that never get built.
Make up sales, stonks go up.
And where do those data centers get their money? Without end customers to sell to, there is no markets. If all jobs are taken by robots, then people will not have work and will not get paychecks to buy stuff. Basically the only option is true socialism and everyone just gets their government checks. But I also don’t really see that happening
You’re still stuck on the actual physicality of normal trade.
These fuckers are making shit up and selling moon farts
They’re not making shit up. Purchasing future production is a very common thing. Shit, tons of Etsy shops operate like that.
Money is a representation of the value of human labor. It’s how people can trade their work for the products of other people’s work without having to directly trade specific items.
The ultra wealthy see money as a vehicle for power over the masses, because people need to work to live. They’re not hoarding that much wealth just to be able to buy expensive stuff.
If all human labor is replaced with robots, then they lose all of that power. If human labor holds no value, then neither does money.
Corporations get value by the production of products how that gets done is irrelevant it doesn’t need to be done by human hands so then the shareholders still make money and can still purchase things and because they’re literally in charge of the market value they determine the price of stuff so only they can get it
you are not listening. I am leaving this conversation
It’s okay. Elon said we’d all be rich thanks to UBI once the robots have taken over all the jobs. And Elon wouldn’t lie.
/s
We will be the stuff
Stuff is people! 😮
People should consider reading Iron Heel by Jack London. Written in 1908 it is considered a social sci-fi, reading it now it feels like he came back from the future to write it.
maybe he did. we don’t know. 🤷♂️
No one, hopefully, we’ve been buying far too much useless plastic garbage, replacing our electronics and appliances far more often than should be necessary, etc. etc. The whole economy is a sham.
Thats assuming that complete transition goes unchallenged. I might be misanthropic, but history has shown humans can be fark’n stubborn
Either we all die, or our owners will give us a few bucks to make a living (UBI style), but not enough to do more. We’re fucked anyway.
