I understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it’s forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?

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    Having spoken with a few women that have done things adjacent to pornography, their regrets are mostly in regards to the way they were treated by people that were not in the industry. The escorts I’ve spoken with enjoy the work itself, although not necessarily all of the customers.

    What you’re saying about the horrors of pornography and prostitution apply to ALL people that need to work for a living. The company I work for buys my time, the product of my labor–which they sell for many times what I’m paid–and even my dignity by forcing me to wear a uniform of their choice. I absolutely do not like the customers that ultimately purchase the products of my labor, but I have little choice if I want to have a place to live, and food to eat.

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      The escorts I’ve spoken with enjoy the work itself

      Like I said, I’m sure there are people who enjoy this, but the system is still exploitative and harmful.

      What you’re saying about the horrors of pornography and prostitution apply to ALL people that need to work for a living …

      Yes. In an ideal world, people won’t have to do any dangerous or difficult jobs. But for now, we can’t start with the worst offenders.

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        I think there are no worst offenders here, all labor is valid as in all labor is exploitative in a capitalist system

        Dignity is very relative here, I think you can be a sex worker and keep your dignity

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          I think there are no worst offenders here, all labor is valid as in all labor is exploitative in a capitalist system

          There is no difference in work quality between painting and coal mining? Teaching children and soldering diodes? Really?

          I think you can be a sex worker and keep your dignity

          Again, I’m not talking about the exceptions here. Having to sell yourself for money is a horrible fate to most, to the extent that we make laws against that. You can think of this the same way.

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        Yes. In an ideal world, people won’t have to do any dangerous or difficult jobs. But for now, we can’t start with the worst offenders.

        do you believe that all sex work is dangerous or difficult?

        do you believe that easy & safe but compulsory work as a means to get obtain food and shelter is an ideal world?

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          do you believe that all sex work is dangerous or difficult?

          Emotional toll aside, putting yourself at the mercy of a stronger person who has already shown that he does not care about right and wrong, day after day, is very much dangerous.

          do you believe that easy & safe but compulsory work as a means to get obtain food and shelter is an ideal world?

          People do enjoy work when it is pleasant and interesting. Should it be compulsory? I don’t know. Rich people who don’t have to do any work often lose touch with the world. So perhaps even in that ideal world where we have amazing robots that can do anything, we should have people do a little bit of some work of their choice.

          But all this is just speculation. For now, the focus should be on freeing people from the most dangerous and difficult jobs.

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      There are significant differences to being forced to sell your mind, competence and time; vs being forced to auction off the another’s use of your own genitals.

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        Please explain what those differences are without using any magical thinking that places sex into a sacred sphere of human activity that is holy and sacrosanct?

        Or don’t. My point is you can tell how serious a person is when they start talking about the morality of sex by replacing every mention of sex in their point with “boxing”. It’s still a highly physical one-on-one activity that’s a crime of both participants haven’t consented, so if the exact same argument doesn’t make sense when made about boxing then they are thinking magically about sex and not materialistically.