No, none of that is correct. He exposed the government metadata collection program to the Gaurdian, then the Obama administration revoked his passport while he was changing flights in Russia and he was forced to seek asylum there. There’s no evidence that he gave the Russians any classified materials, and he’s long maintained that the only materials took were shared wirh the Gaurdian.
In fact, your own Wikipedia article that you just shared mentions Snowden exactly once, in a footnote, and it links to an article in which Snowden criticizes Wikileaks for being careless in how it handled the DNC email leaks. The idea that Snowden helped Russia hack the 2016 election is ahistorical nonsense based on recycled intelligence community lies that were adopted by liberals who don’t know the difference between Snowden and Assange.
His passport was revoked while he was still in Hong Kong. You don’t need a passport to be deported. He’s in Russia because Putin wants him there, not because of passport issues.
His passport was cancelled less than 24 hours before his arrival in Russia. Either he was already in transit when the passport was cancelled, the Hong Kong government was not aware of the cancellation when they let him leave, or Hong Kong fudged the paperwork because they were getting heavy pressure from the U.S. to extradite Snowden and they wanted him gone. To my knowledge, it’s still unclear which of those is true, but in any case, he says he was headed to Ecuador, he had Ecuadorian emergency travel documents, and other famous leakers like Assange have gone to Ecuador for aid, so there’s really no reason to doubt that claim.
You said Snowden, “gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia.” This did not happen. There is no evidence he shared anything with the Russian government, he has long denied that he gave the Russian government any of the materials he took with him, and the only people who suggested otherwise are security agency hacks who tried to smear him in 2014. You’re treating old, unsubstantiated accusations of Snowden passing materials to Russia as proof that he materially helped them influence the 2016 election. It’s absolute nonsense.
Well, it’s not the first time I’ve seen this. A lot of the, “but her emails,” crowd weren’t paying attention to the Snowden leaks because it happened under Obama. They conflate Manning, Snowden, and Assange. They don’t know the difference between Wikileaks and the Snowden disclosures. They just remember, “Snowden, hacker, leaks, Russia,” and assume it has something to do wirh Wikileaks publishing the DNC emails that Russia hacked. It’s especially pissing me off right now, given that Congress is trying to quietly pass an extension of FISA, and even though it gives Trump a massive domestic spying tool, there is a bipartisan effort to get it through.
You’ll clearly believe anything, even if you don’t understand it. Explain what you think Snowden did that materially help the Russians? How did a metadata collection program help hack John Podesta’s emails? Or build Russian troll farms? Share one intelligence source that you think made a credible case that Snowden shared information with the Russians.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, “maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don’t know,” in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, “maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don’t know,” in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Seriously what is the point if you are just inserting shit. Why would my entire belief be based on something I have never seen? You’re disingenuous there is no point actually engaging in a discussion with you. How fucking self righteous do need to be to confidently presume you know why someone knows something. Reel it in mate.
Then correct me. Back up any of the claim that Snowden, "gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia,’ with a single source that actually says that. Or even just explain in your own words what you think Snowden did to help the Russians.
Ill be blunt; Trump’s NSPM-7 instructs intelligence agencies to treat dissenting Americans as domestic terrorists and Congress is currently trying to extend the FISA authorization that let’s intelligence communities gather their data. The very thing that Snowden was trying to warn us about is currently happening, right now, as we speak, under Trump. So I don’t have a lot of patience for conspiracy theories about Snowden and Russian influence campaigns.
You have established yourself as a bullshitting liar that is the extent of the conversation I’ll be having with you. We can keep talking about how you are a bullshitting liar if you like I bet I can make you a better person.
No, none of that is correct. He exposed the government metadata collection program to the Gaurdian, then the Obama administration revoked his passport while he was changing flights in Russia and he was forced to seek asylum there. There’s no evidence that he gave the Russians any classified materials, and he’s long maintained that the only materials took were shared wirh the Gaurdian.
In fact, your own Wikipedia article that you just shared mentions Snowden exactly once, in a footnote, and it links to an article in which Snowden criticizes Wikileaks for being careless in how it handled the DNC email leaks. The idea that Snowden helped Russia hack the 2016 election is ahistorical nonsense based on recycled intelligence community lies that were adopted by liberals who don’t know the difference between Snowden and Assange.
His passport was revoked while he was still in Hong Kong. You don’t need a passport to be deported. He’s in Russia because Putin wants him there, not because of passport issues.
His passport was cancelled less than 24 hours before his arrival in Russia. Either he was already in transit when the passport was cancelled, the Hong Kong government was not aware of the cancellation when they let him leave, or Hong Kong fudged the paperwork because they were getting heavy pressure from the U.S. to extradite Snowden and they wanted him gone. To my knowledge, it’s still unclear which of those is true, but in any case, he says he was headed to Ecuador, he had Ecuadorian emergency travel documents, and other famous leakers like Assange have gone to Ecuador for aid, so there’s really no reason to doubt that claim.
Ooo great bullshit but I never said anything about hacked I said influence and power then linked to an article about russia’s influence and power.
If you have to make shit up to engage just fuck off seriously what is the point?
You said Snowden, “gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia.” This did not happen. There is no evidence he shared anything with the Russian government, he has long denied that he gave the Russian government any of the materials he took with him, and the only people who suggested otherwise are security agency hacks who tried to smear him in 2014. You’re treating old, unsubstantiated accusations of Snowden passing materials to Russia as proof that he materially helped them influence the 2016 election. It’s absolute nonsense.
Wtf is that dude’s reading comprehension? Good on you for debunking him lol.
Well, it’s not the first time I’ve seen this. A lot of the, “but her emails,” crowd weren’t paying attention to the Snowden leaks because it happened under Obama. They conflate Manning, Snowden, and Assange. They don’t know the difference between Wikileaks and the Snowden disclosures. They just remember, “Snowden, hacker, leaks, Russia,” and assume it has something to do wirh Wikileaks publishing the DNC emails that Russia hacked. It’s especially pissing me off right now, given that Congress is trying to quietly pass an extension of FISA, and even though it gives Trump a massive domestic spying tool, there is a bipartisan effort to get it through.
I’ll take the intelligence community over the pinky promise of a traitor any day.
You’ll clearly believe anything, even if you don’t understand it. Explain what you think Snowden did that materially help the Russians? How did a metadata collection program help hack John Podesta’s emails? Or build Russian troll farms? Share one intelligence source that you think made a credible case that Snowden shared information with the Russians.
The entirety of your belief that Snowden helped Russia influence the 2016 election is based on the members of the Senate Intelligence Committee saying, “maybe he shared Intelligence with the Russians, we don’t know,” in 2014. You have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
Seriously what is the point if you are just inserting shit. Why would my entire belief be based on something I have never seen? You’re disingenuous there is no point actually engaging in a discussion with you. How fucking self righteous do need to be to confidently presume you know why someone knows something. Reel it in mate.
Then correct me. Back up any of the claim that Snowden, "gave the NSA’s tools of influence and power over the internet to Russia,’ with a single source that actually says that. Or even just explain in your own words what you think Snowden did to help the Russians.
Ill be blunt; Trump’s NSPM-7 instructs intelligence agencies to treat dissenting Americans as domestic terrorists and Congress is currently trying to extend the FISA authorization that let’s intelligence communities gather their data. The very thing that Snowden was trying to warn us about is currently happening, right now, as we speak, under Trump. So I don’t have a lot of patience for conspiracy theories about Snowden and Russian influence campaigns.
You have established yourself as a bullshitting liar that is the extent of the conversation I’ll be having with you. We can keep talking about how you are a bullshitting liar if you like I bet I can make you a better person.
“Give any evidence that what you said about Snowden aiding Russia is true.”
“I will only discuss how you are a big lair that hurt my feelings.”
Anyway, I’m done here, but thanks for the Dunning-Kruger demonstration.