As it was recently discussed a lot of the data you generate while using the fediverse is public. If we’re looking at the threadiverse even more of it is public including your votes.
I only know the specifics of Mastodon and mbin, so maybe @rimu@piefed.social @nutomic@lemmy.ml @julian@community.nodebb.org and other devs can chime in here.
Voting on Mastodon is a lot more private than voting in the threadiverse. Only the author of a post (and their instance) knows everyone who voted on a post. Everybody else can retrieve the total numbers, but not the individual votes. Of course this comes with the downside that everyone else has to fetch this data and while the instance could send an Update activity - informing other instances that the numbers changed - Mastodon currently does not do that.
In the threadiverse on the other hand, every single vote gets send around the network, including all the details.
I would like the threadiverse software to get a bit better at privacy. Mastodon is often restrictive with activities for that exact reason and while I do not want to completely screw visibility by not sending anything to anyone, I think the visibility of votes can be improved a lot.
So my proposal would be: votes are only sent to the author of a post. The author then sends an Update activity to their followers and the magazine the post belongs to. The magazine then announces this Update activity to all its subscribers. The post object has to contain the relevant numbers of course and Mastodon and PeerTube use shares, likes and dislikes (PeerTube only). These properties then contain a Collection with a property called totalItems and not a list of the people who actually voted, that would defeat the purpose (looking at you PeerTube)
Because nobody wants to break federation with other software, it would be nice if this could be coordinated between all the threadiverse actors
rimu didn’t read your post correctly, changing your display name to match your real name is not necessary or advisable, likewise signing public comments (you can edit them by clicking on the pen button).
Since the offending comment is made from a user on the anarchist.nexus server I have asked one of the admins there (unruffled) on your behalf, I hope that was ok. I think they can “purge” the comment, meaning they can delete it in such a way that every other server it got sent to receives a notification to delete it as well.
Hi,
Thank you for contacting one of their admins on my behalf. I honestly hope they can either remove my full name or the entire post. But unfortunately my name still turns up on the link I provided @rimu@piefed.social with. Of course I would like anarchist.nexus to come back to once they have already deleted this name and if is disappeared from Lemmy.world and other servers. Can you also inform @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com. He was able to delete this copy from their instance only and I think he might be able to help as he is likely to moderate the website of anarchist.nexus too. @unruffled@anarchist.nexus can also contact me if this comment has been purged.
I think the tagging them should suffice, I’ve tagged them before and they turned up 😄
hope you get this sorted 🤞
I honestly hope they will take this comment down. As I had said, my full name is still presented to the public but I don’t wish it to remain visible there. Can you also ask @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com Of course @unruffled@anarchist.nexus can also reply back to me once this post has been erased. Unfortunately the final outcome of this case is not entirely up to me but Lemmy world and anarchist.nexus admins as they have that power to handle such requests. But I am willing to work closely with them to have this matter fully resolved.
Hi there, could you please provide me with a link to the comment, or to the modlog entry, so I can check it out?
Edit: you might want to send it via DM.
Hi there, The link of entry I wish to be removed from the mod log, has now been sent to you via DM. Please respond here or in private message once it has been done. Thank you.
I wrote in a chat visible to both of them, you have tagged them as well I’m sure they’ll see it soon.
Hi, @unruffled@anarchist.nexus replied to me asking to give the URL of page where the comment in question along with my real full name appears. I sent it via DM and I hope this post will be removed from the mod log. But it is still available as it hasn’t been taken down yet.
Just a quick update. This is more complicated than it might seem at first glance. I spoke to a couple of other admins including Mr Kaplan from LW and apparently the only mechanism in Lemmy to federate out a removal of a modlog entry is for them to restore the comment, and then have the OP on anarchist.nexus delete the comment themselves.
I have reached out to the person who posted that comment and asked them if they are willing to delete it. If not, then I think the only alternative would be to reach out to every single federated instance admin to purge the comment manually. And I don’t like your chances of reaching them all. This particular scenario has not been catered for yet in the software, unfortunately.
So, I am just waiting to hear back from the user. If they agree to delete the comment, then I will contact Kr Kaplan again to have the comment restored, and it should then be deleted shortly after that by the OP.
Hi there,
Thank you for that update. But why should this deleted comment be restored again? Will it be removed forever even if it is re-instated? The problem is because before this comment was taken down by admins, I tried to politely ask this user,
@Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus to have the comment containing my real full name erased by him. But unfortunately he ignored and said he won’t conform with my request for removal and he might reconsider removing it for me in case I can manage to have the article from Heise deleted. Even if I tried to clarify, I don’t have to reach Heise requesting removal as my name has never been published in any of their articles, he stopped replying after that. He might have misunderstood the context of the news publication as I have nothing to do with the dispute between the owner of archive.today and Jani Patokallio. I have been impersonated by Denis Petrov who owns archive.today. In other words, my name has incorrectly been associated with it. That is why admins deleted this comment because it contains defamatory information referring to my identity that can be harmful. Why do we have to require permission from the user, “Wildmimic” to have it removed from the mod log if it is was deleted by admins? Once this remark was removed by admins, they didn’t require a confirmation of the user. If you don’t receive a response from him or he refuses to cooperate, how can I get my name removed from the mods log? But even if you don’t hear back from the user, but an admin from anarchist.nexus responds to you, can you complete the removal process? Due to privacy reason, that is very important for me to have this comment purged from most of the servers. If they don’t respond at all, what will happen? I do not wish my name to remain available via millions of servers indeed.
Please let me know what can be done with this scenario.
Thank you.
It will need to be restored only so that the user can delete it themselves. I have asked them as their instance admin, so I anticipate they will comply. We will need to give them a reasonable amount of time to respond though.
I think this is the only viable way to get this done easily, given the way federation works, so I think we should give it a shot.
Thank you for confirming it. I would really like one of their admins to perceive tagging and come back to me once this comment has been taken down. Unfortunately my name hasn’t disappeared yet but it should as I put efforts to have this case resolved with their admins.