I have never been an "online community first" person. The internet is how I stay in touch with people I met in real life. I'm not a "tweet comments at celebrities" guy. I was never funny enough to be the funniest person on Twitter. So when Twitter was accidentally purchased

It became the only reliable source of information I had. People posted links with a minimal amount of commentary, picking and choosing the best content from other social media networks. They’re not doing it to “build a brand” because that’s not a thing in the Fediverse. It’s too disjointed to be a place to build a newsletter subscription base.

  • notfromhere@lemmy.mlEnglish
    1736·
    1 day ago

    I really do not understand all the .ml hate. If you have it so much why are you using their technology (Lemmy)? So much bullshit being reposted as fact. Basically echo chamber brigading. I left Reddit to escape this shit…

    Edit: although judging by your post history you lack conviction and joke about everything, so maybe I missed the mark

    • MisterFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      17 minutes ago

      From one socialist (me) to another (you, presumably), the lemmy.ml hate comes from:

      • Conservatives who dislike socialism
      • Liberals who dislike socialism
      • Socialists who think Stalin and Mao were anti-democratic fuckheads, and don’t enjoy being around “socialists” who like them.

      I like Lemmy, but can at the same time dislike people who like things I consider to be authoritarian, even if those people created the platform in the first place.

      Viewing lemmy.ml content on ‘All-Top’ is a rather happy medium for me, still get to see some of the best memes

    • Telodzrum@lemmy.worldEnglish
      212·
      1 day ago

      Of you hate it so much, why are you using their technology?

      Oh boy, this isn’t a question you want being asked of people (yourself included).

          • WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.worldEnglish
            101·
            21 hours ago

            PieFed keeps track of how many upvotes and downvotes you give, displays that on your profile and if you downvote too much it takes away your downvote button. That happened to me after a weekend of use. This is Lemmy. There’s a lot here that needs downvoting.

            • NewNewAccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
              52·
              18 hours ago

              Are you downvoting to disagree or are you downvoting because it’s not contributing to the conversation?

              • ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                8·
                17 hours ago

                This question shows the inherent flaw with putting any value beyond the function of voting, which is just list ranking.

                • sem@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                  2·
                  4 hours ago

                  Some instances would say down voting at all is inherently flawed, and it is healthier to accomplish ranking by upvoting and moderation alone.

                • NewNewAccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  3·
                  16 hours ago

                  As soon as it becomes infeasible to read every comment, downvoting to disagree creates echo chambers and encourages groupthink.

                  • DanWolfstone@leminal.spaceEnglish
                    4·
                    13 hours ago

                    I find the same, though I, and I hope others, use it as an “I agree/this adds to the conversation” button and downvotes exclusively as a “this doesnt add to the conversation or is misinformation” button. I also appreciate seeing the down votes rather than an aggregated score.

              • notfromhere@lemmy.mlEnglish
                411·
                1 day ago

                Lemmy isn’t compatible with Reddit. Piefed is literally implementing Lemmy’s data structures to specifically be compatible with Lemmy.

                So since your stated goal is counter to reality, I have to wonder what your real intent is. I only see this drama as weakening Lemmy and Piefed by extension, not strengthening anything.

                • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                  4·
                  9 hours ago

                  piefed is not a derivative. It’s not a fork. It’s a completely different project, in a very different programming language even.

                  neither does it implement specifically lemmy’s data structures. its not compatible with lemmy specifically. piefed implements activitypub, and is compatible with activitypub servers. activitypub is not lemmy.

                  • notfromhere@lemmy.mlEnglish
                    1·
                    6 hours ago

                    PieFed is absolutely a “derivative” in terms of its DNA. It’s basically built as a love letter to Lemmy’s specific flavor of ActivityPub.

                    If you look at the raw JSON, PieFed isn’t just “using ActivityPub”, it’s specifically implementing the “Lemmy-isms” that make the Threadiverse work. It uses the same Group actor logic, the same Dislike activity extensions for downvoting, and even mirrors Lemmy’s API routes so you can use apps like Jerboa.

                    In a way, it’s like how a 3rd-party controller is a “derivative” of a PlayStation controller. The internals are completely different, but it’s shaped exactly that way so it can plug into the same console and work perfectly. PieFed chose to speak “Lemmy-ish” instead of just “ActivityPub-ish” to ensure it wasn’t an island.