I currently run all my self-hosted apps either on Podman in a VM or in LXCs on Proxmox. For hardware, I’m using a Chinese-made mini computer with an Intel N150 and 16GB of DDR5 RAM that I bought before the whole AI hype started. I also have a Synology NAS that I use mainly for media and photo storage.

I’ve been thinking about tinkering with Kubernetes in my homelab for a while now (I already use it extensively at work, so I’m quite familiar with it), and I started looking around for used hardware to use as bare metal nodes. Nothing fancy—I’m looking for 1 or 2 mini servers or SFF with at least 16GB of memory and a decent CPU (4–6 cores). But with current prices, even decently priced used hardware (~200–250€) is quite difficult to find in Europe, and most of it is HP stuff with Lenovo being a rare breed around here. I won’t even get started on newly bought hardware…

If you’ve bought hardware in this market recently, how did it go for you? Or are most of you holding out for now, waiting for better times?

  • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    10 hours ago

    Even used stuff is expensive nowadays.

    No shit! I was shopping NewEgg for some used drives. Found a 500 GB HDD for $36 USD which I immediately clicked on only to find this warning:

    Used - Very Good Erased (DoD 5220.22 M Compliant) and tested. There may be drives that have up to 25 bad sectors. There may be writing or >markings on the drive or the label may vary slightly from picture.

    WTF. Who would buy a used HDD with up to 25 bad sectors?

    • Andres@social.ridetrans.it
      3·
      8 hours ago

      @irmadlad @moonpiedumplings Enterprise drives w/ bad sectors and a 5yr warranty? Me (raises hand)!

      With snapraid and backups and the warranty, I’m perfectly happy to use enterprise drives _where the drive errors aren’t increasing_. Worst case, I lose some of those linux distributions and have to re-download them. I wouldn’t use one without a warranty though (and I certainly wouldn’t waste my time on a 500gb drive, the last hdd I bought w/ sector errors was 14TB for $140).

      • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        7 hours ago

        14TB for $140).

        Link me up, Scotty

        (raises hand)!

        Really. I would have never guessed. I mean, I’ve always viewed bad sectors as a sign of a failing drive. Just a really bad day in the future, marked as an appointment.

        What kind of millage on the average do you get out of something like that?

        • moonpiedumplings@programming.devEnglish
          1·
          1 hour ago

          When people say that linux adds a second life to bad hardware, they don’t just mean making 8 gb of ram usable again. They also mean stuff like this, using dying hardware to it’s last breath.

          Related: https://lorenz.brun.one/dealing-with-bad-ram-on-linux/

          You can mark the failing parts of ram as explicitly bad so Linux avoids them, just like with hard drives. Another way to get more lifespan out of this hardware.

        • Andres@social.ridetrans.it
          1·
          6 hours ago

          @irmadlad I can’t tell you averages (I’m not running massive storage servers with hundreds of drives here), but I ordered this particular one in Oct 2025. It’s still going strong. There’s another one that I bought back in 2019 or 2020 that I used for a few years before replacing it due to needing more space. Meanwhile, I’ve used plenty of consumer drives over the years that were a lot less reliable, so I have different rules for consumer drives (toss 'em at the first error) vs enterprise drives.

          • Andres@social.ridetrans.it
            1·
            6 hours ago

            @irmadlad Also, I would think that companies offering long warranties on refurbished drives are playing the odds in a way that makes them money. It probably wouldn’t be profitable if they sold drives w/ bad/reallocated sectors and the majority of them died within the warranty period.

            My assumption is that all drives will die (or suffer corruption) at the worst possible time, so do proper backup/scrubbing. Then look for deals where I can.

    • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
      2·
      9 hours ago

      i have no idea.

      i personally bin (recycle bin, that is) any drive (ssd or hdd) that has any abnormality in its internal diagnostics data, or won’t pass short and long diagnostics tests even if their stats are clean.