• atzanteol@sh.itjust.works
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    Nothing AI is free. Unless there’s a chain of custody for all of the training data, it’s still unethical even if it’s used for a good thing.

    This is the weirdest sort of AI bullshit I keep coming across.

    And there are non-AI ways to accomplish this that are just as good that would require almost comically less resources.

    And… Where are they?

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      This is the weirdest sort of AI bullshit I keep coming across.

      Hi this must be your first time on Earth in the last decade, every single AI company has been in or is currently in no less than ten dozen lawsuits over copyright infringement. It’s so bad there’s at least one website purpose built to track copyright infringement from AI companies..

      Without a specific chain of custody for every piece of training data going into the models, there is a default that the model cannot be trusted and is likely infringing on someone’s copyright.

      To specify the 'nothing AI is free" part, LLMs are grossly computationally inefficient. Whether it’s local or not.

      And… Where are they?

      Already installed on most distros.

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        So where are the winning lawsuits of all that copyright infringement then?

        Already installed on most distros.

        And they are called… ?

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          Thomson Reuters v. Ross Intelligence

          Bartz v. Anthropic

          Kadrey v. Meta

          UMG v Udio

          Those are the settled ones so far. This is 4 years into AI existing. Lawsuits, especially copyright lawsuits, tend to take up to a decade in the US, because the US legal system is shit.

          Here’s 118 currently in progress. Because AI is copyright infringement.

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            Thomson Reuters v. Ross Intelligence

            In February 2025, the court granted summary judgment that such copying was not fair use, emphasizing that the purpose of ROSS’s copying was to build a directly competing product

            Bartz v. Anthropic

            The court granted summary judgment for Anthropic that training LLMs on copyrighted materials is fair use.

            Kadrey v. Meta

            Judge Vince Chhabria denied plaintiffs’ motion for partial summary judgment on fair use and granted Meta’s cross-motion and granted Meta’s motion for partial summary judgment on the DMCA claim.

            UMG v Udio

            Settled - no judgement.

            Those are the settled ones so far. This is 4 years into AI existing. Lawsuits, especially copyright lawsuits, tend to take up to a decade in the US, because the US legal system is shit.

            Here’s 118 currently in progress. Because AI is copyright infringement.

            Having lawsuits is not winning lawsuits. The AI companies have been winning on fair use. Same as Google back in the 2000s when they were sued for for various search products (news, books, etc.).