Re: the recent meta discussion and ongoing chats about self hosting, open vs closed source, AI etc, I wanted to share some food for thought.

I’ll explain why this is related to self hosting at the bottom (section bolded): our lovely new mods can call it. I hope it inspires some out loud thinking.

Disclosure: I am not the content creator nor am I paid by them to signal boost. I just like their stuff and think this is an important topic, from multiple angles.

“The future of AI depends on the moral compass of five people.”

I’ve been watching “AI in context” for a few weeks (they make long form biopic content on current state of AI - really good stuff).

This dropped today; it’s about the wheeling and dealing behind closed doors at OpenAI re: Sam Altman’s firing. It’s a lot more watchable than that sounds :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eYTkvZqbnQ

The line that brought me to a stand still was “the future of AI depends on the moral compass of like 5 people”.

I think folks here (and Lemmy generally) are more savvy about AI then the gen pop (though Lemmy is famously FuckAI)…but even if you’re training a nanoGPT model from scratch on hardware you own …you’re still beholden to outside forces.

Eg: the people’s champion - Qwen - seems to have split or gone closed weights for 3.7. That’s not a good sign.

Reason for post

In the recent [Meta] chat, I noted an undercurrent of “no man is an island” - that is, yes, you might host your own X, but you’re still dependant on external Y (eg: SearXNG).

Self hosting / FOSS / forking mitigates some of the “we changed the terms of service after the sale” enshittification we see occurring in related spaces (eg: right to repair). But there’s only so much leverage you can enact before it becomes pyrrhic.

I would like to believe “fuck you, I won’t do what you told me” is our bulwark against market forces.

At the same time, it’s sad to see so many “Don’t be Evil” mission statements not survive contact with reality (watch the vid: OAi was founded on the ideal of “don’t let AGI kill us”)

I think what happens upstream has effects down stream too (see prior X vs Y examples)…

Not sure where this leaves us. It’s a weird time to be alive.

Enjoy the video (and their others - Ai2027 is eye opening). Look forward to any productive chat this post might inspire.

  • irmadlad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    4·
    9 hours ago

    We should keep in mind that self hosting means different things to different people.

    THIS, is the crux. You said it yourself @curbstickle@anarchist.nexus early on in your intro to being the new sheriff in town: ‘There are so very few of us’ relatively speaking. However, even in our small circle, the word ‘selfhosting’ means a lot of different things to a lot of different people. To some, if you don’t have an enterprise rack at home that dims the lights when you power on, well you’re just vanilla at best. To others, running your stack on a VPS is just as enjoyable and rewarding. To some, a laptop server to run one or two Docker containers fits the bill. Some like AI, some don’t. To say that you have to be ‘this tall’ to ride this ride is just downright silly to me and very counterproductive. All selfhosters do not align by the same star. We are diverse as the day is long, and that’s what is so very enjoyable to me. I love seeing how different people have wrangled technology to tackle a problem and arrive at their own solution.

    I truly think we can all coexist without curb stomping someone who ‘ain’t from around here’ or someone who has different ideas and approaches than we might. At least that is my hope.