Whenever I hear somebody moving to a Macbook and make any sort of complaint onkine, lots of people unhelpfully tell you to buy a $1000+ iPhone and that will solve all your problems, or when an Android user is “switching to iPhone”, a similar thing happens with “just use a Mac”. Why the hell do you need to purchase all the expensive devices to just use one?

Most of the time, using an iPhone, Mac, etc., does not “just work”. Maybe the UI is simply not very usable (not just Liquid Glass, see MacOS’s terrible implementation of a settings app, iOS not having an option to combine the quick settings and notifications), third-party devices (headphones, chargers, tablets, etc.) simply do not work well (no, “get the iDevice” is not helpful!), iOS having the most ass file management that may as well not exist, all the different bugs poking around everywhere (through my own experiences with iOS* and my friend’s with MacOS), etc. “Give more money to Apple to fix it” is not good advice and does not help to solve anything.

Why is it that, when Apple has inherently worse hardware, everybody seems to put up with it? On their Macs, you have 60 Hz LCD displays on a $1000+ laptop, no good ports selection unless you spend thousands more, ridiculously priced memory and storage upgrades that would be a death sentence to any other company, very shallow key travel that feels terrible to type on compared to other options, etc. As for their iPads, you have similarly not so great displays on a relatively high end tablet unless you spend thousands on a tablet with an uber-fancy M5 chip (why would anyone need that???), a keyboard case that is so expensive despite feeling like a cheap membrane keyboard you got on Aliexpress and being so top-heavy, etc. Who in their right mind would purchase a $550 set of headphones made of ridiculously heavy metal, with uncomfortable cushions, terrible battery life, mid ANC, and several year old innards?

How has Apple manipulated so many people with their marketing? I don’t really see anything quite like it in other product segments. What is the secret apple sauce?

*note that I currently run an Android phone, but I have my issues with them too that I won’t get into. My particular device is very bloated and incredibly annoying to work with sometimes, but it’s what I’ve got. On my laptop I happily run Linux, where the device simply listens to me which is a nice change of pace

edit: Actually, no, I think something similar occurs with Nintendo (in video games) and Disney (for films)

  • sbeak@sopuli.xyzOPEnglish
    26·
    9 hours ago

    I don’t see the issue with a 60 Hz display, you’re not getting one for gaming.

    But the devices don’t exist in a bubble. Laptops that cost much less get 90 or 120 Hz displays, and similarly priced options get OLED and touch support!

    They have thunderbolt 4 ports, which is all you need

    Until you need to connect your laptop to an HDMI display and don’t happen to have the required dongle that is sold separately. Or when you have a USB(-A) flash drive, you need a dongle too.

    Both of these cases are very common for all groups of people, particularly in educational settings.

    Some people prefer shallow key travel.

    Fair point actually

    but there is absolutely nothing wrong with their laptops other than being a bit more pricey.

    Again, that’s the issue.

    • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      1·
      1 hour ago

      I have a MacBook Air that I connect to any of my screens through HDMI using a plethora of sub-20USD USB-C docks that are not made by Apple. I use the same docks for my other laptops. Would I make my MacBook Air bigger to have more ports in it? Fuck no, keep it tiny and put the ports on a SEVENTEEN US DOLLAR DOCK so I don’t need to put the motherfucka on life support every time I want to use my keyboard/mouse/monitor/external SSD/10key/controller/DAC

      I plug one cable in and it all works (and charges at 100w!)

      If I’m traveling and want to plug in a flash drive but don’t want to use a dock that’s less than half the size of a phone? My travel bag has USB A-to-c (and C-to-A) converters. Plug that wired bitch right in.

    • remon@ani.social
      82·
      8 hours ago

      But the devices don’t exist in a bubble. Laptops that cost much less get 90 or 120 Hz displays, and similarly priced options get OLED and touch support!

      Ok, so some cheaper laptops have a useless advantage over macbooks. I don’t care. If I could pay one extra doller to get a macbook with a 120 Hz display, I’d save the dollar.

      Until you need to connect your laptop to an HDMI display and don’t happen to have the required dongle that is sold separately.

      That’s a feature! Dongles are great. You can connect dozens of peripheral by plugging in a single cable. I wish they would have stuck to that concept instead of re-introducing obsolete ports on their recent models. 4 TB ports + headphone jack was perfect!

      Again, that’s the issue.

      But why? No one is forcing you to buy their products if you don’t think they are worth the price. But a lot of people do and we didn’t need to be “tricked”.

      • otp@sh.itjust.works
        56·
        8 hours ago

        Did you just claim that not having ports is a feature? Lol

        If you weren’t being facetious about that, I think you might’ve had too much of that Apple Kool-Aid.

        …which is actually probably a flavour of Kool-Aid, lmao

        • kobra@piefed.socialEnglish
          4·
          5 hours ago

          I think your knowledge is a bit dated? MacBook Pros have had HDMI ports since the M1 release in 2021.

        • remon@ani.social
          71·
          8 hours ago

          Yes, not having legacy ports taking up space is a feature.

          I think you might’ve had too much of that Apple Kool-Aid.

          Repeating tropes sure is great if you don’t have arguments.