Right - I see the other topic has been locked / author hasn’t returned to follow community rules.

Here’s the original topic https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49003386

and a measured (IMHO) response to it. (BTW, do your self a favour and change tabs with that site open :)

https://マリウス.com/i-regret-migrating-to-codeberg/

It’s a tough spot, Codeberg has found themselves in and I wish them luck. But beyond that, this is (yet) another reminder that in 2026, if you don’t self host it, the cloud is just someone else computer

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    Yeah - it’s well known that scripts to automate doing bad things did not exist before llms.

    People have tried using forges to host explicitly illegal material all the time. Not just “this may be a copyright issue perhaps maybe”.

    The copyright complaint is a fig leaf to hide their shame.

    They also outright banned cryptocurrency code with no “copyright fig leaf” apologia.

    It’s code puritanism plain and simple. “We don’t like these things so we’re banning them.”

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      You are still not understanding the issue.

      LLMs cause a lot of people to unknowingly violate copyright, and those people then become easy targets for malicious copyright litigation. And Codeberg is caught in the middle of that and doesn’t want to be involved in the resulting mass legal cases because they are just a small volunteer organisation without a legal team.

      And Codeberg’s explanation is very clear that is isn’t a blanket ban on LLM generated code for “purity” reasons. It is a risk mitigation strategy against projects that are mostly LLM generated.

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          What hasn’t happened? Sure, this isn’t wide spread yet, but it also took malicious law firms a while before they realized going after p2p torrent users is a lucrative business.

          And I seem to have a much better grasp at copyright than you do.

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            P2P torrent users are nothing like a code hosting platform. 🤣

            As has been said - their liability for llm code is no different from hosting any other code. They already have the same risk. And that is typically that they must respond to take-down notices which they are already doing.

            They are already dealing with all of the problems they would be dealing with with llm code.

            It’s just code puritanism wrapped in pseudo legal justification. Own it.

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              At this point I must assume you are trolling 🤦

              It is a totally different thing to have the occasional copyright take down request from a legitimate copyright holder, or hosting code that is in the majority likely copyright infringing and just waiting for someone to start targeting for mass copyright litigation.

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                  It is not. There are plenty of studies showing that LLMs spit out code that is near verbatim to existing code and LLM companies even go so far as to instruct their models to not also add the corresponding license/copyright headers with that code.

                  There are probably law firms analysing common code patterns LLMs often use right now and are approaching copyright holders of similar enough code to buy up the rights. It might not all stand up in court, but it will be enough to scare some people into settling for fee that guarantees a profit for these law firms. This is a tried and true method for an entire industry of law firms.