cross-posted from: https://sopuli.xyz/post/49832828
There are three potential reasons for members of this forum to have a look at https://vutuv.de/
You are tired or annoyed of LinkedIn. You are searching for a job or a candidate. You are technically curious and want to have a look at the inner workings of such a project. We use everything Phoenix Framework has to offer and connect to the Fediverse.vutuv compared to LinkedIn is not closed gated and it is free for everybody. You can read every posting and visit any profile without having to register first. Have a look at my profile at https://vutuv.de/wintermeyer
All the data is hosted on our servers in Germany. Nothing is send to the cloud. No third party cookies.
Please give it a try and please do give me feedback. Here or if you find a bug or want to post a feature request in our GitHub repo. Thanks!
^quote from developer about vutuv https://elixirforum.com/t/vutuv-de-an-open-source-linkedin-alternative-built-in-phoenix/76166/
Unfortunately this is mostly an AI project :(
I support the idea of a federated employment platform. However I see no reason for an employment platform to have social features.
I have only received jobs for the last 10 years via social features. I hate it, I don’t enjoy it, but networking and people skills are the way to a good network. I started blogging and recruiters started pinging me regularly. It has a place
Thats great, you can network and have people skills on social media and link from there to your professional bio. There’s no reason for them to be in the same place.
Except, I don’t want those people in my regular circles on my regular accounts, I keep work and personal separate. I’d prefer to have a separate account, just like this that’s linked to my professional life. This fills that need for me
So create a separate account. There’s no reason it needs to be on a dedicated platform.
So you want to separate things so they’re all in their own little spheres… so that there’s less dedicated services?
Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities? I don’t know man, I see some real value here, what’s the harm of it?
Where would I put my CV and professional details, my skills and abilities?
On a separate, professional site.
what’s the harm of it?
The harm is filling a professional website with a bunch of noisy nonsense no one cares about. I don’t need to see your federated OnlyFans profile when I’m looking for an employee.
Don’t subscribe to users from there then, and even then doesn’t sound like this would be federated?
On a separate, professional site.
That’s quite literally what this app appears to be trying to do.
I know we love to hate on LinkedIn, but honestly there are plenty of reasons to want social features about employers and jobs. Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.
Of course that’s not what LinkedIn is largely used for because it’s full of employers trying to brand themselves or influencers trying to make an image for themselves. But it could be different, I think.
sounds like linkedin x glassdoor, really. except people on glassdoor are assholes too.
maybe it cancels out.
theyre one company now, so they get to be assholes together
oh that’s not an exploitable combination of properties at all
Reviews, salary discussions, union organization and all such stuff that employees could leverage against employers, for instance.
These are all things that could be designated to one or the other, as appropriate. There’s no reason they need to be in the same place and every reason not to.
Not sure I understand - you think some of those things don’t belong on the fediverse? What do you mean “one or the other”?
1 = social media
“the other” = Professional business platform
I think these things should be separate.
I feel like that’s an unnecessarily narrow view of what the fediverse can be. The fediverse is not only for any single particular social networking use case, like micro-blogging (Mastodon) or forums (Lemmy, Pyfed etc). It can be much more than that, and all of it at the same time. There’s no reason why the fediverse should restrict itself to only certain social media use cases.
The fediverse is already broken up across way too many usecases, such that I have to have a profile for videos, a profile for podcasts, a profile for my blog, a profile for communities, etc. etc. and they want to add another one.
Right? In what way does it help anything? Only makes things worse.
Honestly though I feel like a federated linked in has the same problem as a federated dating site…, or really even federated facebook style social media etc…
Federation can work for something like lemmy, in that we can be useful in spite of a lack of userbase compared to the corporate version. 200 people scattered around the world to talk about linux, or open source works.
Trying to find someone close enough to you to date, or looking for a specialized employee or a close enough to work on site employee on the other hand, is a hell of a stretch.
I is hard to remember this name. Please consider another
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Look, I really want LinkedIn to disappear. But please, please, please don’t focus on building/porting another “platform” to ActivityPub. A client application that can interact with C2S servers would be a thousand more times more interesting, for users and companies alike.
ActivityPub already has an API. Let’s just use it.
…but how does that help me create a blog post demonstrating I can make a thing in order to get hired? If I just use mostly the thing that already exists and just intelligently hook up a smaller more minimally scoped software to it then it doesn’t really help me get a job…?
Of course it does. You just need to change your resume to say you are looking for a software architect position. Chances are you are going to end making even more money.
Interesting. I fully expect it to be a bunch of Linux nerds. However, us linux nerds share job postings with others.
Funny as I wanted to recommend bizzFed today. I finally pulled the recommendation due to rather ungoverned AI use.
I cannot asses whether vutuv is really better in that regard, but at a first glimpse Wintermeyer’s AI workflow seems to be more sophisticated.
… there are no job postings yet
So cool… but looking at the rest of the comments I might just be a little naive. Yet it is worth at least checking out.
So there’s 2 of them, bizzfed and this? I wonder if they choose the same entities as AP actors etc and work together in a good way.
Love it, I’ve signed up, awesome work with import from LinkedIn feature seems really handy for users!
