Agree, and I think it’s funny someone downvoted you because that’s always been the case, AI didn’t change that. It’s just now we’re seeing the next evolution and we’ll see who sticks around and who doesn’t.

This is the only sane answer here, and it makes sense because of the sentiment on Lemmy.

There is one constant rule about software engineering. You must be adaptable. The career is ever changing, you need to be okay with that. I think a lot of people right now are finding out that if they dig in their heels they think they’re making a point, but the company doesn’t care, there’s the door. AI is just another change in the career. Adapt, or be left behind.

The job isn’t the same as it was 5 years ago, which also was different than it was 10 years before that, and then 10 years before that. I’ll say this is a large change, but that’s the job.

I think the biggest thing is there’s no room for “I’m a react engineer” anymore. Everyone needs to be everything, and it means learn as much as you can as fast as you can. You must be a “T-shaped” engineer. Wide breadth, with specific deep knowledge that makes you stand out. You can be an expert at react, but should also know how to code in the backend, and how to deploy, how to work with APIs, some basic cloud architecture. If you’re not learning, you’re falling behind.

I empathize with this so much. Online communities can be great, and also so demoralizing. No matter how much you enjoy or do something there is someone else who does it way better, and worse they will look down on you for it. They will foam at the mouth if you aren’t 1000% committed, people will gatekeep and make you feel small for something that should simply bring you joy.

Damn how many girlfriends have you gotten pregnant?

Fairphone has their own with /e/OS

Yes but that’s been lost on people unfortunately. It’s a lesson only millennials and gen X have retained in my experience, growing up with it we were drilled in to not trust anyone on the internet.

Boomers have forgotten and never learned it for themselves.

Gen Z grew up with walled gardens and thinking their accounts were private.

Sure, but that’s not my point. Social pressures aside, there is no way for instance a to control what instance (or server, or data collector) B does with it. Unless you audit every server federated, there is no way to know if anyone is doing anything with your data.

3 letter agencies can and may even already have servers that look like ordinary fediverse servers already just happily listening and storing everything. No amount of social pressure here is going to stop that. So all users need to understand this about the fediverse, that anyone can do whatever they want with your data whenever. For privacy, go to Matrix.

When did that sentiment change on the internet where this was somewhere you could privately say something? I remember that being beat into me as a kid. Everything on the internet is public and permanent, don’t post anything you wouldn’t want a future boss reading or read aloud in court. Somewhere that sentiment dropped when absolutely it shouldn’t have. It’s like people here don’t know that FB/Insta/all of them logged everything everyone ever said in giant databases ready to be handed over or leaked.

Seriously the Fediverse isn’t dangerous, the internet as a whole is. People need to stop thinking it’s “safe” to post things on the internet.

It’s an important thought to have, and it’s been going around in other circles too. What you post here is public, and you have absolutely no control of where it goes or who it spreads to. I’m all for it, I think open socials are important to not lock out anyone, and if you don’t like something as an individual you can block and as a server owner you can defederate. The flipside though is that anyone can spin up a server and do whatever they like with what you post. Train LLMs, save in a gov database, just count votes, whatever they like. This is the tradeoff of corporate social media.

Great. You show me an 10 foot fence I’ll show you an 11 foot ladder. Go ahead and audit every server that federates with you, send them a questionaire. There’s absolutely nothing stopping the next lemvotes from setting another server up, and there is nothing stopping any three letter agency from setting up their own listening server.

Of course, apologies if my comment came off as you independently are doing something crazy that we should all defederate. You absolutely are not in my book doing something outlandish.

My point only was that I don’t know why someone on piefed.social feels the need to post in lemmy.world about something that is what appears to me to be an internal instance choice.

Db0 to you directly, and for everyone reading, you have done more for the fediverse than the vast majority here and are up with the developers in my book. You have built tools for the fediverse that most will never see that keep onslaughts of abuse from hitting our servers. Personally, you have helped me with my own server helping me debug now almost three years ago. It will take much more than rimu’s personal issues with you to burn through the goodwill you’ve built up with me, and I assume the other admins.

Personally, while I am not a mod or an admin of this channel, I would argue that a personal vendetta is not relevant to the fediverse channel amd I hope these posts are both removed. I agree that they are thinly veiled attempts at trying to manipulate admins.

This is a good take, and I appreciate it.

The cold hard fact is that there are a lot of bad actors, even here on Lemmy. Most users are sheltered from it because of good mods and admins. It’s easy to shit on them, but these people sort through the absolute muck. There’s a reason we don’t have racists and gore and CP here, and it’s because they keep all of it at bay away from eyes here. I know this because I firsthand have seen some of the permanently scarring shit, and it was only a small fraction of what mods on world deal with.

Soi don’t blame moderated arching out tools that help them not see it.

However each admin and mod have to decide for themselves and their users what is best for them, and that is purely an admin level decision for their server. The fediverse is very cool that everyone can make their own rules, and I like that nuance.

You are correct, and it’s what I was suggesting op do if they don’t like what other admins do. It’s right there.

As for viewing votes there’s a whole site dedicated to showing everyone’s votes, it’s called Lemvotes. Feel free to say please, but people are still going to do it. Votes and everything elsewhere are very much public, best to get used to that now.

Absolutely it is. Grab a bucket and relax

@rimu@piefed.social is this the cause of your issue yesterday? We talked about this for hours. Just defederate.

@db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com is an admin, he owns the server, he can do what he likes on that server.

As I said yesterday, and overwhelmingly everyone chimed in agreeing: This is the nature of the fediverse. You do not get to make rules for the entire fediverse.

You are on piefed.social, just block his server from your feed you dislike it so much.

Yesterday’s Post

The fun is literally joining in with the author.

by definition, that is adding walls and gates to the fediverse, which is why this whole thread started. The fediverse was specifically designed to oppose those features at all, specifically because of what we’re seeing now. Gates have keys and gatekeepers, and as we’ve seen in the greater world, those can change hands in the blink of an eye.

GOOD. NO ONE should be trusted here! I’m just some guy who decided to spin up a server, there should be zero trust! THIS IS MY POINT.

Don’t you think everyone deserves the information they need to choose which instances they want to interact with, according to whatever criteria is important to them? Even if your criteria are different?

This depends on the trustworthiness of the admin themselves, and even then every admin is just some person who decided to spin up a server, just like me. Trust is built and earned, it shouldn’t be implicit. The option you have is to defederate, or leave and join another server.

I’m really not trying to be an asshole here, but your post is what caused me to do this. This is not a unique post, this is a fundamental core principal of the fediverse that every user must understand. That by being here, it is not a private secure place, you are quite literally blasting every comment, post, and upvote, to whoever wants to listen. Literally everyone. Any semblance of privacy is purely a UI trait. Rules/guidance is purely 100% based on what each server owner chooses.

and it will continue to be. Again, you need to understand this. There are no rules, guidelines or anything that an instance owner needs to follow beyond whatever legal requirements they have in their specific jurisdiction.

So, I guess in your pervalence, you are correct, you do not have that freedom. Even I, as an instance owner, do not have that freedom, because everything I’m typing here is being sent out to as many servers are listening too. By being completely open so that anyone can spin up a server and listen for activity, it literally means that we are open and any server can listen for activity.

Anyone can spin up a server, create some LLM bot, and start replying to anyone they want. That instance can be defederated of course, but that is the only tool. This is what you signed up for, this is the open and free internet. We do not have any walls here.

That is quite literally my point. Everything, absolutely everything here is open and can be used however any instance owner wants. You can say “leave that shit alone”, but there is no obligation to whatsoever.

You should assume every instance owner can and is viewing all of your private data, sending it through whatever LLM/mod tools they want. Are they? Probably not. But they can, and there is no obligation not to.