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  • there is. if the updater gui integrates with packagekit and systemd, it can start an offline update that reboots your system and installs the updates while nothing else is running.

    kind of like on windows, except that this is one of the things where windows made the right call. complex software does not handle it well if its program libraries and assets are being replaced by newer ones that the running version cannot understand.

    its still kind of a new thing, not all distros make use of it yet, but Fedora does, and it’s not a Fedora custom solution but something that most distros can have.

    automatic filesystem snapshots and rollback can be integrated to this too, and then bye bye to updates breaking the whole system.



  • Your argument in relation to GitHub does not take in the reality of the effort involved with migrating to a different platform, effort that is likely unpaid, has no logistical upside and stalls the development efforts of a project,

    forgejo can automatically import issues, PRs, Wiki articles, and automatic pull/push mirrors can be set up to keep the repo up to date at other places.

    the CI/CD system is almost the same.

    all the usual features are the same or very similar, including the whole user interface.

    not to mention breaking every single source code repository link across the wider internet, links that represent publicity and community engagement.

    who said they need to delete the repo from github?

    I think it’s admirable that a project is asking its community if it should stay or move

    it indeed would be admirable if the communication did not contain offensive tones at multiple places.

    and also don’t forget that they already migrated once. but in the meantime it seems they have gone back to github for reasons unknown to me.










  • I’ve been told that opensuse tumbleweed has it. I’ve also read a suse forum post saying leap 16 will support offline updates, releasing in January, so they could be the first to support all of this with fs snapshots

    Even just the updating from Discover can be broken on some systems

    if you didn’t enable offline updates in systemsettings, then it’ll do roughly the same as you would in the terminal, so that’s not unexpected


  • that’s exactly how updates should work in every desktop distro. as an option of course.

    systemd made it possible to install updates on shutdown.
    packagekit enabled kde software to automatically obtain and prepare the updates.
    plasma does the final touch nowadays to ask you on the reboot/shutdown dialog whether you want to install them.

    Basically all the system is in place, with code from widely used parties. packagekit can even integrate with your filesystem to make a snapshot before install. It’s wonderful. yet, it seems as if only fedora supports this full setup right now? or is there anything else?