Disney made a point of building an original Star Wars plagiarism based on the majority stereotypes, as opposed to fan stereotypes. So where the common stereotype and the fan stereotype would diverge, they deliberately chose the common one. Like the whole thing being about space wizards and pew-pew.

I think sometimes that maybe the “second generation”, after the original creators get old or full of fans’ shit, is usually not very talented, so all it does is grab money and take revenge.

I wonder sometimes if in the framework of that logic all KK was doing was taking revenge on Star Wars fans for upsetting George, and similarly all Sergey Brin, Mark Zuckerberg and such were doing was collect power based on what Sun Microsystems mastodons and Unix fathers and such have done, and take revenge on the wide populace which didn’t value it all.

As in - your typical fan of it all blames MS, Google and such for the way tech became shitty, while the tech bosses blame the populace for choosing shitty and making the good companies bankrupt, and think they are humiliating that populace deservedly. Similar with Disney Star Wars.

Seems like you’re making a a bad faith argument.

Seems why? For me it doesn’t seem so, and it likely won’t, but maybe you can add some detail.

I dunno, for me Door Into Summer is harder sci-fi, but Foundation is harder sci-fi too, and Starship Troopers is harder sci-fi, and Dune is harder sci-fi as well, and Citizen of the Galaxy is harder sci-fi, and one can go on. Pilot Pirx is very hard sci-fi, and many other things by Lem.

Star Trek is not more similar to those than Star Wars.

Pew pew lasers and swords and magic is hardly technologies’ potential impact on humanity

Mockery is not an argument in itself and would somewhat hurt your main argument if such were made.

Star Wars has different kinds of evil. It has YV, it has Killick hives, it even has drug addicted sects. In any case that’s not the meaning of the word “idealistic” I meant.

In the EU that’s a few days or weeks. As if in the movies that time were just skipped.

And doesn’t contradict too much how it’s shown in the movies, if it seems like more than an hour or two before they jump to hyperspace, and in hyperspace there’s enough time for lightsaber training, then maybe it’s a few days.

Star Wars is about syncretic understanding of life and story and morality, - say, I’d trust a Star Wars fan who’s not a humanities major to understand what anti-fascism is more than a humanities major who’s not a Star Wars fan. I don’t think I can describe it better than Lucas himself does, and he seems to have achieved the opening of his museum telling lots on the subject.

Star Trek I haven’t watched enough to judge. But I think they are orthogonal, where Star Trek has idealism, Star Wars has life and chaos, and where Star Trek has philosophy, there Star Wars has just the story, and where Star Trek has neutrality, Star Wars has choice.

Bullshit. The Death Star novel, most of NJO, KotOR II, Allston’s parts of the X-Wing series, Jedi Apprentice and Jedi Quest and the Last of the Jedi, Medstar and Coruscant Nights, I can go on, - there’s plenty of good things.

I don’t think star wars says that except for “what if there was a gun so big you could shoot a planet?”

Which seems to be a smarter question than your “statement about humanity” when actually living in that humanity where all the time someone is trying to build a gun as big as possible in many contexts and interpretations.

Books yes, the show - too much neon and glossiness. I understand that this is the “futuristic” style accepted today. But it just doesn’t fit my perception of the books one bit.

Well, I suppose there were also limitations to casting black people as Imperial military personnel (those people reminiscent of the British Empire and Nazis) and Tatooine, being somewhat reminiscent of Texas with Middle-Eastern additional vibes, too may not have been too suitable. But … whatever.

I don’t know, maybe Lucas even was racist sometime around 1977, but by 1980 no more. Who the hell knows.

Lucas is married to a black woman, Star Wars in general is full of aliens representing, ahem, different races, Star Wars 1980 and 1983 have Lando, and Star Wars prequels have a few black people on screen.

With Star Wars 1977 the story was that most of the people in the background were hired from the union in London when filming, probably not many black chaps there then. Or so I’ve read recently.

About interracial relationships - yes, not much of that on screen, if we don’t count the heavily implied Leia-Jabba pairing.

It should be a series, with a bit of theatrical (not opera) feel. A bit like B5, but slowly flowing and thoughtful.

Actually like Shaman King (both the Japanese original of anime and the manga are good, haven’t yet seen the remake of the anime). I don’t care if you call me nuts. I am.

Onderon and Dxun can be expanded upon this way.

Honestly, that has to be done, but not somehow to make some money, it can way a couple of decades until a group of people just right makes it.

Doesn’t even have to be the same universe or the same brand, I think Lucas himself wouldn’t care about the brand.

Actually no, there is a hurry, we have to do it while he’s still alive. I’ll be needing a team (like 100) of artists following Bushido, knowledgeable in Blender, Pov-Ray and drawing anime and manga, a team (like 20) of electronic musicians with black belts in PureData, Rosegarden, folk Arabic, classical and popular Persian, classical Chinese and Japanese music, knowledge of microtonal music, computing resources of of the OpenAI scale, office space of the Jedi Temple size, and a year.

EDIT: Joking, of course, it’s not this simple even having the resources.

It became convoluted and full of holes in its first wave, mwahaha.

And the EU could be separated into a few distinct parts, which, if separated (for each to be “unreliable narration” for characters existing in others), were not all that convoluted and full of holes, not at all.

With Disney canon unreliable narration just doesn’t help. It still doesn’t make sense or point.

Well, that would be a god-level acoustic set.

There was a fan explanation (which I maybe saw somewhere in novels), that they sort of listen to some band in the clear like analog radio (in situations where binary-encoded communication is not available), and that working engines and shooting blasters make lots of interference there. Filtered enough to save the pilot’s hearing and sanity.

I mean, that’s similar to what you said, just better IMHO, cause sounds are not “generated”, but derived from signals around.

I’ve thought of all these, but what I’m describing should be a comprehensive system in itself and at the same time have global identities and addressing of all content, so that data model could be applied, for example, for a sneakernet or for some situation where you’d have to synchronize data over delay-tolerant networks.

Most of all like Briar or Usenet or something else.

It is. It’s like the medieval Sound Toll, you can’t measure it well enough because there are no trade routes between the Baltic and the North Sea other than the Sound, the Kiel channel is not yet a thing.

Perhaps you were mostly in the right kind of communities on Reddit.

Also I dunno what you’re talking about, I gave up on Reddit after being banned for like 10th time, the reasons all being “calls to violence” (that’d be about civil rights, democracy and such) or “ethnic hate” (that’d be about NATO allies not having a carte blanche to do whatever they want, specifically Turkey and Azerbaijan).

I’m less reserved on Lemmy, and my views are around anarcho-capitalist (I’ll admit some Trotskyist and anarcho-syndicalist things appeal to me, so sort of left from the average).

What kind of stupid s*** is this? Is the Fediverse just a safe space for leftists because of what happened to Twitter?

It’s a hierarchical system. Want something better - design and implement a p2p social media with democratic leadership of communities.

So. Which pic is Jarael in KorOR comics?

Star Wars’ fan base damn near revolted when the series hinted that The Force might not be purely mystical.

The series hinted that in the first movie when it was introduced. Sorry.

The thing with midichlorians was protested because it was damned stupid. Original Star Wars managed mostly to walk the line between specific and stupid. You don’t have to invent a stupid explanation of a space age technology if you can do with vague hints. Most people IRL too don’t know a lot.

Even in prequel and post-prequel EU midichlorians would usually be ignored or referred as just one variant (Jedi powers are not very well explored, you see, they have plenty of competing theories, you see, secrets of the powerful and all that).

Star Wars also has rules that pretend to be logically consistent. Say, hyperspace travel and how in the movies it’s shown that it’s, ahem, important and an error in anything might lead you to drop out in the middle of a star something-like-that, and also in the EU that a failed hyperdrive might work like a medium-sized nuke. Which makes sense for a device that literally transposes your dimensions in the universe or whatever, should be lots of energy.

Except I’ve read a few comically stupid books like “Wraith Squadron” where there’s no balance at all, a “hacker” pilot can check all of a planet’s archives by being in its orbit, things like that. But the preceding books about pilots (by a different author) were good.

I’d say Star Wars is more about vibes than about opinionated future of humanity. But compared to ST it’s not less sci-fi.

The business customer who actually pays for the development.

Then it’s my duty as a responsible customer to not make it profitable for them, as much as I can.

Maybe if you can’t use the web without disabling JS, you shouldn’t?

Suppose I can use the Web with JS disabled. Just that page won’t be part of my Web.

Yes, of course when the optimization work has been done for you, it’s the easiest.

It’s an old discussion about monopolies, monocultures, standards, anti-monopoly regulations, where implicit consent is a thing and where it isn’t, and how to make free market stable.

That can’t be fixed. We can’t wait for a different kind of human (what if it’ll be an artificial psychopath anyway) to fix our current thing.

So hard to disrupt means of organizing (for associations, unions and such, unofficial) and building electoral systems (for Internet communities even, why not) are needed ; social media gave people a taste of that to lure them before subverting it all, but the idea is good.

Some sort of a global system. When it’s in place, improvement around will follow.