That 15% is scary. Imagine believing even killing the mother for an unsuccessful birth is worth sticking to your stupid guns.
Yes but it’s probably worth reading the fine prints of a poll before coming up to the conclusion that 100% - 85% of one answer means 15% of the polar opposite. Chances are that there is a non null share of “I do not know” or even they didn’t understand the question.
Let me rephrase that, I meant the non-zero percent who believe that. But yeah, thanks for reminding me that poll percentages may have other interpretations. Whoops!
This many be true. But, if so, it must not be considered an important issue by more than 50% of the people because it isn’t factoring into their votes.
Its like how most people are afraid of climate change but cant be arsed to do something about it.
Currently nothing matters as long as a politician shouts “scary immigrants” and people mass vote for the fucker.
It doesn’t help that immigrants are scary. Instead of addressing it on the emotional level and calming down the fears, politicians choose to gaslight those who are afraid (rationally or not).
I think (or at least hope) what youre trying to say is “immigration” or “the thought of having many foreign people in your country” is scary, not the immigrants themselves.
Both really. The thought of strange unknown people is scary until you get to know them. But also people going through immense suffering and trauma, fighting for bare survival, can be dangerous and unpredictable.
I get what you are trying to say, but you are doing a piss poor job of it lol. You’re making it very easy to interpret your comment as a bigoted “immigrants are bad” take.
What?
Brown people = Scary
Don’t start thinking of them as human being; they are scary, and they will eat your dog!
Flamingo is making a point that immigrants are objectively scary. From my history lessons, no immigrant is scarier than Europeans. Just ask all of the remaining native Americans. But I’d still posit that being an immigrant in and of itself doesn’t make anyone intrinsically scary.
Unfortunately for that 85% of Americans, we’re not actually a democracy.
Even if we were, way too many people don’t actually “believe” in what they claim enough to actually vote for it.
Very true.
It’s why we’re never getting away from the duopoly.
Unfortunately for the percentage of those Americans who didn’t vote for the anti-choice party, the ones who did are fucking morons.
This is also true for most progressive policies… think Bernie sanders agenda…
Yes. The US is not a democracy.
Most politicians also don’t get support for >50% of their constituency
Yeah but they vote based upon “muh inflation” anyway.
I mean, what were you expecting?
Inflation is legitimately bad and affects every aspect of one’s life in this country, and unlike abortion, adversely affects nearly the whole population of this country.
One of the lessons of fascist history is that, when people can’t afford basic necessities, they start caring less about social issues.
Inflation is caused by economic policy which is driven by politics
Doing things pike raising minimum wage makes it more expensive to operate a business which drives up prices
And yet… checks notes inflation has gotten worse? We saw the writing on the fuckin wall. This guy ruined one economy why not let him do it again! There is no reason anyone should have voted for chitler other than hate…
And yet… checks notes inflation has gotten worse?
Yep, it did. Apparently Harris’ brilliant campaign strategy of saying that they weren’t going to change anything, and you should be joyful about being poor, didn’t result in a landslide election victory.
People didn’t vote Trump expecting major change. They voted Trump because they hate Democrats just that much after four years of rampant impoverishment and being gaslit about it.
Username checks out?
Anyway I agree with you for the most part. I think Lemmy has a lot of far left extremism so anything that isn’t far left politically gets down voted
So… the economy got better during the last presidency, thanks to a tanked economy before it… and now it is tanking again unsurprisingly… but people hate being gasliit about democrats ruining economies? Harris’ campaign had a boatload of issues, but claiming the economy was going to continue was a safe bet to anyone who could read… fox news wasn’t telling them that so again, reading is important.
The economy is being destroyed because Trump is crazy
Long term though it isn’t as clear. Politicians almost always get economics wrong because the public gets it wrong
It was stable and improving when they elected cheeto again…he was a cancer for it before and now his unchecked absolute brain rot is going to make it worse…
So… the economy got better during the last presidency
For the wealthy maybe.
This is the gaslighting I’m referring to.
Well… as a bartender I must somehow be wealthy cause I sure did better the last 4 over the previous. And somehow this year has been OK but is spiraling down fast… maybe it’s just the gaslight? Or it might be people don’t spend money they are afraid they’ll lose cause of an economy that looks like it’s about to collapse (again)
I think the core of the problem is that the democrats left behind white low to medium income families and individuals. The US is about half democrat and half republican with a chunk in the middle called the swing voters. The democrats appealed to the existing democrats instead of the swing voters. I’m not sure what the demographic is for the swing voters but I have a feeling it is probably people who don’t want to see an extreme left.
I’m glad it worked out for you. It worked out for me as well, since I’m fortunate to have a good job. Even so, my grocery bills are up 30% - 40% over the last four years, and I’m not the only one. If I had a wife and family, that would be exceedingly difficult to manage.
But it seems the majority is getting tired of working multiple jobs and upwards of 100 hours a week in order to be able to rent a roach-infested studio, and they definitely didn’t want to be told to be joyful about it.
My eighty year-old parents have been borrowing my car for over a year to drive for DoorDash, because if they don’t, this country will render them homeless to make some billionaire asshole richer. The worst part is that is true no matter which party we hand power to.
Who’s the one who was successfully gaslit? Based on your comment, it seems to be you.
One of the lessons of fascist history is that, when people can’t afford basic necessities, they start caring less about social issues.
All Republicans talk about is social issues and culture wars.
Fuck the rich, I got a ditch for them, Infrastructure and more.
What percentage of Americans believe that christofascist authoritarians should be clubbed repeatedly like baby seals and all their churches firebombed into a BBQ pit?
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