cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/28228514
website is up, you can see a handful of posts but you cannot login and mostly just errors out.
Done did their final
sudo docker compose down… as someone whos considering switching out of world my eyes are open.
Currently in between .zip and dbzer0 seeing which vibe is right
How’s zip so far?
It’s ok I just don’t like how they handle images. When I click on an image it redirects to open in a browser (on mobile) or new tab (on desktop). Dbzer0 doesn’t do this. I suspect they handle images more like lemm.ee did.
its good but I feel like I ran into less not likable ppl on lemm.ee, maybe they were already blocked instancewide or something
Or maybe ppl here are more argumentative these days lol
Oh I hear you…. I didn’t think about that. World is heavily moderated and switching to another instance opens me up to more aggressive personalities.
Bad like brian over here. Signed up for lemme just to be kicked off the first server. Hopefully it’s an extremely rare event. If world goes down, I’m out.
I hear Digg is close to launching its beta or whatever…
I miss it.
Same, it was a good instance.
As a former lemmeezen, RIP, F, it was a good trip, quite decent service, but now it’s time to spread out.
db0 is being nice so far, and I even got an account on my country’s lemmy.
How’s dbz?
I wasn’t affected by this directly, but from what I saw it was all handled extremely well - lots of notice so users could choose new instances and mods could coordinate moving communities elsewhere. Makes me optimistic for the fediverse.
It’s 30th of June. Lemm.ee is shutting down now.
im pretty sure it was having issues on the 29th
Well… it’s 10 before midnight here. I’m pretty sure a bit east from me it’s the 30th already. Not so much in the west. But I don’t know where lemm.ee was located.
Estonia, so it’s already the 30th there
pretty sure sunaurus is an Estonian.
Ah. My instance reports the last activity from lemm.ee from 45mins ago… So that’d be June 30th, 00:14 Estonian time. And the main page forwards to join-lemmy.org now. Looks like the shutdown to me.
Also, .ee is the TLD for Estonia.
well yes, i am estonian
It just redirects to https://join-lemmy.org/ for me
That’s pretty smart of the admins, actually. Thankful they thought of that.
oh, now it does
interesting 🤔
Not really, the admins and just about every active community on there announced a month ago that they were shutting down.
I think op was saying it’s interesting that it redirects rather than just an error
That’s not really interesting. DNS changes don’t propagate instantly. It’s likely OPs DNS server was still pointing to the old server even though the domain redirect had already been set by the owners.
So you are the arbiter of interesting now?
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Confirm is ded. I moved from there. RIP.
I’m not even a member of lemm.ee and was aware of it closing today*
* - timezone dependent but +/-24hours.
Same. at least users of lemm.ee were given a lot of notice in advance so they could prep
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There is going to need to be some centralization of some form for this to work. The fediverse is a mess right now but its such a good idea.
What, centralisation has the opposite effect. It makes things worse. Imagine lemmy.world shutting down (the biggest instance), lemmy would be fucked.
Decentralisation is to be encouraged. So if an instance shuts down, it’s not the end of the world.
Like how basically all lemm.ee communities were migrated.
When I say centralization I don’t mean letting a few control the many. This is what I mean.
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Figure out what the alternatives are for these sites we don’t need several Twitter alternatives.
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Each site needs a front page, Accessible on the Fediverse front page. This allows people to easily make an account.
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There should be one main site which will be the largest instance, people can edit the UI to feel how they like, but we need to allow communities to grow big.
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To safe guard against point 3, fund the sites with 100s or thousands of co-equal owners. Say you get 5K people donating $5 a week to each site, they each get 1 stock or piece of the “company” and now it prevents a reddit or twitter situation.
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The final thing, we need Fediverse user accounts, where once you make an account on 1 site you are automatically signed up to all of them and anyone can follow/subscribe and follow on all platforms, leading to a more cohesive biome
- No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative. Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.
- But each site already has their front page. See eg.: lemmy.dbzer0.com. Alternatively if you meant “each software”, that’s more-or-less what join-lemmy.org is doing.
- No but yes.
- I’m not sure that leads to where you think it leads to. That would require authenticating users financially, for one, else it becomes a dark pattern magnet for suckpuppeting.
- Mostly absolutely yes. I think I’ve seen it discussed a few times under “fediverse identity” or something like that.
No. There is no particular reason why there needs to be one (say) twitter alternative.
Having multiple versons of the same type of platform artificially divides the Fediverse and makes it more likely that they’ll split along ideological lines
Heck, there is not even a reason why there should be a alternative. Fediverse is allowed to be their own things.
While it would be awesome if we could figureout unique formats of social media, everything has basically been done, Myspace, Facebook and Linkton are the format of keep up with your friends.
Twitter and BlueSky are the basic format for literally “see whats trending”
Reddit and Lemmy are the basic format of Curated Community Content.
Youtube is the basic video sharing platform.
Tiktok algorithmic video sharing and platform which actually improves on youtube.
It would be really hard to fine a way to make a truly unique social media site but would be awesome
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