Not everyone thinks this, but I know an extreme right-winger who thinks this. He is also a conspiracy theorist who thinks non-white people are out to get white people so, yeah, odd.
Not every immigrant is illegal or bad. I know a girl who didn’t speak English for 3 years when her family legally immigrated, so of course she’s been told this.
Your first mistake is assuming logic has anything to do with it.
It is ethnic cleansing, pure and simple.
Because that would involve a level of logic and critical thinking well beyond them.
For some reason it seems like human nature to treat everybody in a recognizable group like they’re the same person, and that person is either good or bad depending on your background and attitudes - immigrants, trans people, cops, boomers, tech nerds, hot women, republicans, democrats, musicians… there are probably stereotypes you have broad opinions about which you will spend all day defending/rationalizing because a) “it’s true” and/or b) “I’m not bigoted!” We’re all bigots, just do it in different ways. And no, that’s not a defense for any particular bigotry or saying they’re all equal.
the logic is that they think white people deserve the land more. Its plain old racism.
Short answer is “propaganda”. News agencies against immigration will pretty regularly swap between “illegal immigrants”, “immigrants”, and <insert current target race here> as if they’re practically interchangable to build whatever narrative they want, and also to slowly build an association between ‘people of <insert race>’, ‘being a drain on society’, and ‘being here illegally’ to get the average person to side with them.
Racism.
That’s i t.
That’s literally it.
- Not all US cirizens feel this way. Convict47 won by 1.5%, with 19 million less voters Thant the previous time. Voter suppression won this election.
- And for the ones that feel this way, you’ve got it absolutely right, plain old ignorant racism.
Because we have an idiot problem over here right now. The person you know is an idiot.
“Shouldn’t that logic apply to…”
One must remember that people aren’t logical. They’re hypocritical and willfully ignorant.
The far-right doesn’t care about logic, it’s all just good ol’ racism.
Whats worse is that the current administration has stated that native Americans are not US citizens and indigenous communities are being hassled hard by ICE right now. I don’t know what their plan for native people eventually is but it won’t be good and it won’t be to just leave them out of this.
Okay, what the hell? They are NATIVE Americans.
So are the vast majority of most Mexicans. Mexico is mostly a Native American country that has been a bit acculturated to Spanish culture. Their genes are mostly native, their food is mostly native, their name is native, and they even have a native Virgin Mary called the Virgin of Guadalupe that wears Mexican-style clothes. South Park did a bit on this where the women of South Park were getting “wise” advice from Native Americans, so it was highly regarded and sought out. Towards the end of the episode, the women of South Park found out that the advice was coming fro two Mexicans, so they got upset and disregarded it as crap.
Fun fact: What is now the Southwestern US used to be part of Mexico which is why a lot of places there have Spanish names. It became US territory at the end of the Mexican-American War via the Treaty of Guadalupe.
Fun fact 2: BBQ is Native American. The word comes from the Taino word barabicu.
Yes, I know the episode :)
This is interesting
Yes but but not native United Statesians
Guess the illegal immigrants just want to finish the genocide.
So people are programmed to be biased towards their own self interest, it’s not as malicious as it sounds, it’s unfortunately human nature.
So naturally they would think that the new world conquest was justified for whatever reason (maybe cause there was no flag?).
And conversely, naturally they would think of new people coming here as less justified, after all, we live in a modern world with borders now.
What I’ve learned from politics in the last few years, especially during the pandemic, is to never trust someone’s opinion when there is conflict of interest.
We’re also heavily biased towards our own group. Humans are so tribal it’s kinda wild if you think on it.
Get a bunch of Ford and Chevy people in the same room, see what happens. And we divide ourselves along 100,000 other lines.
Lemmings look down on redditors.
“But I’m on the right side! The others clearly are not!”
In college there were 3 restaurants owned by the same guy, all very popular and everyone wanted a job at one. When we would all get together for Christmas or other event, we would self segregate and snob the other employees. Our restaurant was the cool one.
You assume logic is behind their reasoning, that’s where you went wrong
The White House made it so that all inmigrants are criminals by default because they entered the country illegally. Turning innocent until proven guilty on its head. Now everyone is guilty by association.
Well, they aren’t talking about the huge number of “illegals” who are here on expired visas because that would mean a lot of white people would get rounded up in this bullshit.
I think it’s as simple as this: people need an enemy, some person or group they feel is against them. Conservatives get off on having a victim complex, and will straight up make shit up against their opposition just to make themselves look like a helpless little child. “Oh no, what am I gonna do? Me or my granddaughter needs a job and I heard in the news they’re all being taken up by immigrants” meanwhile, the same person is being fed this information from the comfort of their couch.
“The immigrants are taking our jobs” is a sentiment that I have seen at least in my part of the country go down in the last several years and im in a very conservative area. Simple fact is immigrant workers work cheaper and faster than others and they often do better work, people are realizing that.
