I think this might be getting overblown a bit. I think if this is a communication to an internal community, like in any job, you’d not want people sharing deeply personal information about their sexual orientation and whatnot.
If I started a new corporate job and started just spouting “Hey, I’m [sexual orientation]” around the office or in chat rooms, I’d probably expect to be notified that it’s not going to be acceptable in a professional environment. I think the Furry thing would also probably be advised against because, regardless of the actual nature, it may make people uncomfortable.
This person has every right to be announcing this as part of their identity in social settings, but it’s not shocking if it’s not allowed in a professional setting. The uncomfortable meter goes both ways, same as if someone else walks around the office spouting their cis-straight identity or religious bullshit. If it’s making people uncomfortable, they should also have to curb that speech to stop upsetting people in the larger group. I don’t think anyone has come up with a golden solution to solve for this that I’m aware of.
There doesn’t seem to be any clarifying information on the nature of the list this was part of or anything, so it’s really hard to get the context. If this was a corporate and public communication, it’s not shocking if it was going against some corporate speak no-no bullshit. 🤷
Edit: Christ, I’m not even saying controversial and I’m being brigaded ffs 🤣
Every corporate tech job I’ve had has dozens, if not hundreds, of openly queer people openly identifying as such. And that’s how it should be.
Whether it’s as simple as a rainbow or trans flag emoji in slack, as individual as speaking up internally about problematic anti-queer messaging, or as deep as an affinity group who coordinates pride events and such, it is and should remain acceptable and protected.
And honestly same with furry. I don’t care if who I am as a person may make someone uncomfortable. That’s solidly not my problem, and shouldn’t be an HR issue either.
Sweet Jeebus, do people here not ever take the time to read and comprehend a damn thing before they bandwagon and react?? You’re saying things that apply to zero of what I’ve said, and what the original topic is about. What in the world are you even on about? Who is saying anything about people identifying however they want? Did you even read the linked thread ffs? 🤦
Who ever said anything about people identifying as anything? That has nothing to do with what the discussion was. You’re extrapolating on something that isn’t there.
First of all, this is not a professional setting, he’s not an employee there, and that forum is open for everyone.
Secondly, and way more important, people do that daily and no one cares especially when introducing oneself it’s common to mention stuff like your wife/husband and your preferred pronouns, hell, my corporate slack profile has my pronouns and those of everyone else. I’ve worked with trans people who introduced themselves as trans on the first day, and no one cared. So no, it’s perfectly okay for people to talk about themselves during an introduction even in professional settings.
Last but not least, people being uncomfortable is not a good reason to ban something, members of the KKK might be uncomfortable about working next to a black person, so what? Should the black person hide that he’s black to not make the others uncomfortable? That’s bullshit. If a person is uncomfortable by another one saying they’re queer, then that first person needs to deal with it, being queer is part of who the other person is and he shouldn’t have to hide who he is because someone might be uncomfortable about it. You mentioned religion, which I don’t think falls into the same category because religion is a set of beliefs that many people change through their lives, but still, people wear crosses daily in professional settings and no one cares.
The amount of corporate bios I’ve read that talk about wives, husbands and family is astounding.
But I’m not totally sure what this is. It looks like someone joining the community to work for free? I might be wrong. If that’s the case they should be allowed to write whatever the hell they want as long as it’s not hurtful.
And super weird they’d take out “queer” but leave the furry thing. Not that there’s anything wrong with either.
You’d be pretty surprised what conversational topics would reveal one’s implied sexuality that no one would probably push back against, because it’s “normal.” For instance, I recall straight people announcing at my work that they’d been trying for a kid or their partner was pregnant. :|
Inferring something from a conversation is way different than someone advertising it. It’s also way different in a social setting with co-workers versus the office, which in this context, it seems like it was an office communication.
Some people clearly don’t see a difference between mentioning a part of a relationship and just stating what their sexuality is. One is appropriate in a much broader spectrum of settings than the other, regardless of what the sexuality of the person in question is, and I feel like people who don’t understand, or refuse to, are likely to be obnoxious to be around in general.
Edit: Christ, I’m not even saying controversial and I’m being brigaded ffs 🤣
Don’t worry about it. It’s Reddit refugees who haven’t yet figure out up/downvotes mean noþing in þe FediVerse. Þey’re still karma-farming þinking þey’re going to get gold some day.
Being trans has nothing to do with someones sexuality. Just because everything is sexual to you doesnt mean its like that for other people. To be clear, just so you dont get confused. This is an example of you mistaken what being trans is, not anyone else.
I think this might be getting overblown a bit. I think if this is a communication to an internal community, like in any job, you’d not want people sharing deeply personal information about their sexual orientation and whatnot.
If I started a new corporate job and started just spouting “Hey, I’m [sexual orientation]” around the office or in chat rooms, I’d probably expect to be notified that it’s not going to be acceptable in a professional environment. I think the Furry thing would also probably be advised against because, regardless of the actual nature, it may make people uncomfortable.
This person has every right to be announcing this as part of their identity in social settings, but it’s not shocking if it’s not allowed in a professional setting. The uncomfortable meter goes both ways, same as if someone else walks around the office spouting their cis-straight identity or religious bullshit. If it’s making people uncomfortable, they should also have to curb that speech to stop upsetting people in the larger group. I don’t think anyone has come up with a golden solution to solve for this that I’m aware of.
There doesn’t seem to be any clarifying information on the nature of the list this was part of or anything, so it’s really hard to get the context. If this was a corporate and public communication, it’s not shocking if it was going against some corporate speak no-no bullshit. 🤷
Edit: Christ, I’m not even saying controversial and I’m being brigaded ffs 🤣
Every corporate tech job I’ve had has dozens, if not hundreds, of openly queer people openly identifying as such. And that’s how it should be.
Whether it’s as simple as a rainbow or trans flag emoji in slack, as individual as speaking up internally about problematic anti-queer messaging, or as deep as an affinity group who coordinates pride events and such, it is and should remain acceptable and protected.
And honestly same with furry. I don’t care if who I am as a person may make someone uncomfortable. That’s solidly not my problem, and shouldn’t be an HR issue either.
Sweet Jeebus, do people here not ever take the time to read and comprehend a damn thing before they bandwagon and react?? You’re saying things that apply to zero of what I’ve said, and what the original topic is about. What in the world are you even on about? Who is saying anything about people identifying however they want? Did you even read the linked thread ffs? 🤦
I read your comment in full before replying to it. I don’t know how to help you connect the dots here.
Who ever said anything about people identifying as anything? That has nothing to do with what the discussion was. You’re extrapolating on something that isn’t there.
First of all, this is not a professional setting, he’s not an employee there, and that forum is open for everyone.
Secondly, and way more important, people do that daily and no one cares especially when introducing oneself it’s common to mention stuff like your wife/husband and your preferred pronouns, hell, my corporate slack profile has my pronouns and those of everyone else. I’ve worked with trans people who introduced themselves as trans on the first day, and no one cared. So no, it’s perfectly okay for people to talk about themselves during an introduction even in professional settings.
Last but not least, people being uncomfortable is not a good reason to ban something, members of the KKK might be uncomfortable about working next to a black person, so what? Should the black person hide that he’s black to not make the others uncomfortable? That’s bullshit. If a person is uncomfortable by another one saying they’re queer, then that first person needs to deal with it, being queer is part of who the other person is and he shouldn’t have to hide who he is because someone might be uncomfortable about it. You mentioned religion, which I don’t think falls into the same category because religion is a set of beliefs that many people change through their lives, but still, people wear crosses daily in professional settings and no one cares.
The amount of corporate bios I’ve read that talk about wives, husbands and family is astounding.
But I’m not totally sure what this is. It looks like someone joining the community to work for free? I might be wrong. If that’s the case they should be allowed to write whatever the hell they want as long as it’s not hurtful.
And super weird they’d take out “queer” but leave the furry thing. Not that there’s anything wrong with either.
You’d be pretty surprised what conversational topics would reveal one’s implied sexuality that no one would probably push back against, because it’s “normal.” For instance, I recall straight people announcing at my work that they’d been trying for a kid or their partner was pregnant. :|
Inferring something from a conversation is way different than someone advertising it. It’s also way different in a social setting with co-workers versus the office, which in this context, it seems like it was an office communication.
It’s weird how you’re moving goalposts in an analogy you created that misrepresented the situation anyway.
What goalpost got moved here? Literally the same thing I said before.
Some people clearly don’t see a difference between mentioning a part of a relationship and just stating what their sexuality is. One is appropriate in a much broader spectrum of settings than the other, regardless of what the sexuality of the person in question is, and I feel like people who don’t understand, or refuse to, are likely to be obnoxious to be around in general.
Don’t worry about it. It’s Reddit refugees who haven’t yet figure out up/downvotes mean noþing in þe FediVerse. Þey’re still karma-farming þinking þey’re going to get gold some day.
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Being trans has nothing to do with someones sexuality. Just because everything is sexual to you doesnt mean its like that for other people. To be clear, just so you dont get confused. This is an example of you mistaken what being trans is, not anyone else.
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