Basically, as the title asks, Nooki is effectively dead in terms of activity compared to Lemmy which is actually pretty active, but ATproto, which Nooki uses, has a larger userbase than ActivityPub, doesn’t that seem odd to anyone else or is it just me?
Nooki should be more active than it seems like it is at least on my end.
Wtf is nooki
A Reddit alternative based on ATproto. Basically, it’s to Lemmy, what Bsky or Blacksky is to Mastodon.
No, but I’d think Nooki could’ve funneled in some of Bsky’s userbase since it runs on the same protocol as Bsky, and gotten livelier than it appears to be, like Lemmy is actually active but its competitor over on ATproto, Nooki, is nothing but crickets.
but lemmy didn’t get popular because it talked to mastodon. it got popular because it talked to itself. how many nooki instances are/were there?
There’s also the nerdy versus a normy factor to look at. Reddit was always a significantly nerdier place. The API-pocalypse disproportionately concerned or impacted the nerdier crowd more to boot. Lots of Normies never tried to leave Reddit, and many went back to it quickly. There wasn’t a lot of normy content on the Fediverse for them. And they could mostly run their normy communities on reddit satisfactorily.
Twitter OTOH was always a much more Normy space. And when an open fascist came in and started shitting all over community and moderation, it left a lot of them no quarter. The more educated ones came to the fediverse. But the Dorsey sheep largely went to blue sky, to likely repeat this all again in the future. Either way, they were never the crowd that was attracted to Reddit in general. So it makes a lot of sense that a reddit like site built on the blue sky stack was a non starter.
We should bridge them.
Bridgyfed is a thing. I suppose it could work. Though it would likely need some work as it’s more geared to bluesky.
Maybe that’s because it’s super new, done by a single person and just not well-known to people? I mean I just tried to google whether it’s open-source and there was no useful link on the first page of google… So no wonder people don’t arrive there. I bet it was the same for Lemmy, a few weeks after it got invented.
Does ATproto have a larger number of users than ActivityPub or does Bluesky have a larger number of users? Once you take Bluesky itself out of the picture, ATProto isn’t exactly a super popular protocol…
Probably because no one has heard of it.
Googling it, it was only made 2 months ago.
People use ATproto to develop real apps?
Also, I’ve never in my life have heard of this Nooki. Anyone else here have?
I get what you mean, but ultimately I think the services are just different, regardless of protocol. It’s (kinda sorta) like going back several years and saying “Twitter has a bunch of users but Reddit doesn’t, why is that when both are on http?”
Even something like, Lemmy and Mastodon - I use both, but not because they can talk to each other over AP. I want different stuff out of Twitter-likes and Reddit-likes. I like the decentralization of providers, but don’t care much to have different types of apps intercommunicate.
Bluesky really caught on, mostly by starting out with the simplicity of a single, centralized service (also having a bunch of VC money). But that doesn’t mean much imo for other things on ATproto.
So that’s to say, I think the real question is just why Lemmy has done better than Nooki. And for that I think it’s all down to timing tbh. Lemmy was already here when Reddit started degradifying a lot.
I hadn’t heard of Nooki. Has it been good in your experience?
It’s been fine aside from being completely dead.
I think a lot of people who joined bluesky did so because they wanted 1:1 the former twitter experience. A reddit clone isnt what they want.
ActivityPub is older, it’s going to have more users and has a much healthier selection of services
OTOH, I’ve got no idea why anyone would use any ATProto services other than bluesky, they really don’t have any users
Oh nooki is cool, the website is nooki.me.
Who knows, if it can incorporate the blue sky content it could easily eclipse Lemmy
