A post from 2 days ago presented a graph that showed an important variation in the active userbase: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/52565659

Using the daily rather than monthly view on https://lemmy.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 shows a much stable line (especially if you take into account Piefed’s growth: https://piefed.fediverse.observer/dailystats&days=120 )

Going through the comments in the other posts, a few recommendations that can help with the overall experience

  • use different feeds: either using different Lemmy/Mbin accounts (one account per type of content), or Piefed personal feeds, but being able to browse different feeds such as “Good news”, “Hobbies”, “Art”, “Life advice” help to see more content than politics and tech

  • discover communities: subscribe to !communitypromo@lemmy.ca, !fedigrow@lemmy.zip and !newcommunities@lemmy.world to add active communities to your feeds

  • go to general communities rather than specific ones: the current user base only allows so much specialization. Your favorite city builder community may not exist, but !citybuilders@sh.itjust.works does. !stationery@lemmy.world and !pen_and_paper@lemmy.world may be inactive, but !journaling@sh.itjust.works is not.

  • use a client that allows for comments consolidation: I don’t remember which mobile apps does it (Sync, I think?), Piefed has that feature built-in too. It allows to see all comments on a cross-post in the same view: https://piefed.zip/c/privacy/p/928874/worst-in-show-ces-products-include-ai-refrigerators-ai-companions-and-ai-doorbells#post_replies

  • report toxic users and avoid communities that do not handle your reports: quite a few comments mentioned that issue in the other thread. Mods can’t see everything, reporting helps to keep the atmosphere of a community enjoyable.

  • use a client that implements keyword filters: quite a few mobile apps and alternative Lemmy front-ends do, Piefed has it built in. It can really help avoid the “doom and gloom” overwhelming your feed.

Finally, a few communities recommendations for lighthearted communities

  • Vegan_Joe@piefed.world
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    I honestly like the small, eclectic vibe better.

    I don’t know what the number is, but I’ll arbitrarily say, anywhere under a quarter million is perfect.

    I know the federation model provides a strength against the cascading list negatives that plague popular platforms, but I don’t doubt that with a large enough user base, exploits would certainly seep in, particularly with ease of AI bot manipulation and astroturfing.

    It reminds me of the Linux saying “security through obscurity”.

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    I’m curious to know what PieFed’s user base would look like.

    Most people simply don’t know about Lemmy/PieFed.

    I think once features mature a bit more, if there is another rexit we could see numbers tripple or more.

    Many people didn’t stick around with previous rexit’s because the UX sucked.

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    Ahhhhhh, that’s a much more intriguing question. You do have a limit to how many data points you can fit on a chart. Monthly average allows you to go back much further but with less insight.

    I would assume you would get a much rounder example if you sampled weekly.

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    Woo we staying!

    Also anyone know how to use their API? https://api.fediverse.observer/

    I would love to make a “treadiverse” combo line. Cause its hard to look at when piefed is slowly going up, lemmy is slowly going down, and m/k bin is going all over.

    EDIT: Never mind, found it. Theres an icon on the right hand side.

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      spez learned from the last one. the ecosystem gets more closed down every day and automod’s trigger finger just gets jumpier.

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          Reddit just claimed I threatened violence by calling joe rogan a cynical tool playing his flock. Nothing even close to violence or harm calling. I tried to give him a chance as he was a bernie supporter, and could not stomach his bad faith lies on everything from the president to him castigating environmental protesters.

          I think it was in bad faith, for other reasons. Their link to the offense does not even show the offending comment to you anymore either.

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            LOL. You have beaten my record, since my comments were, at least, containing phrases that could be classified as threatening violence without the context of a whole comment. But your case is a new level. My applause.

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    In the repost on the Chile community, also saw one or other comment about Lemmy being toxic. I do notice a certain “toxicity”, though from certain corners and which seems to stems more often from what I call “misery posting”, which would be posts whose main focus seems to be to make the given topic appear like a lost cause to the reader (even some “meme” communities seem to fall on this).

    Since some communities seem specially prone for such posts, I second blocking those as you notice the patterns to try to make your feed healthier, and to hopefully make such places shrink into a healthier size. Or at least, if you got the patience and resistance to mass downvoting and mobbing, to post in those communities and within their rules what to you is positive. Alternatively/Parallel to that, one could make sure to react accordingly to posts, instead of uninterestedly hide everything in feed as the user scrolls.

    Otherwise, a given environment shrinking or tanking in growth could also mean people that use it are growing apathetic or anomic to popularizing it, to which I repeat my suggestion in the Chile community, change starts by small steps. So for example, if someone is on a platform compatible by extension but without an ActivityPub bridge or function active (e.g. Threads and Bluesky), to explain to them they could activate it, and e.g. Fedi Brdigy is working on Lemmy compatibility, so more potential users going around. Also, if you see a funny meme or the sort, you could share the link, provided it has a decent blurb preview on the platform to be sent.

    Also spikes happen anywhere when competing platforms have issues, so current retention might just be its natural one.

    And even on a Lemmy account I have (thus little noise from microblogging) and while highly curating my feeds there, the amount of posts is almost too much for me to be able to go through. So by observation, the “threadiverse” as a whole seems rather healthy in numbers.

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    So what’s going on here, most likely, is that the intake of new users is declining as opposed to people specifically being driven off the platform (as some users allege).

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      It’s stabilising so either we are down to the really stubborn user base or it’s the start of a steady growth

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        Oh people making the claim that Lemmy being too political or too hard-left drives users off and is responsible for the user malaise. I’m sure that’s true, but not to an appreciable level.

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          Lemmy is being too political. We don’t like it.

          Meanwhile Reddit:

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          To be honest the tankies made my transition to lemmy a bit smoother, since they fill the same niche as the idiots of t_d, so it made lemmy kinda familiar.

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          Idk this left and right directionalism is worthless online, where half of users are fake influence agents with bots and mechanized troll legions.

          Now with chatbots, certain parties have the better ones, to flood social media, pretending to be all rypes. I imagine are a factor.

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    Mlem (iOS) doesn’t exactly consolidate comments across cross posts, but it does list, at the top, all of the cross posts, how many comments each one has, and links directly to them.

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      This is another one of Mlem’s great features. I used try many different iOS apps, but things like this keep bringing me back to Mlem.

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    My problem right now is I’m on Fedia.io and I’m liking the interface, but more and more, what used to be other instances popping up in my feed, are disappearing, and I feel like I’m missing 1/2 the content that lemmy has to offer.

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      Line expert here. It’s technically not a line. It’s many data points that may seem to look like a line, but it’s not. You see a line is the shortest distance between 2 points. By definition they are straight. This dataset is not a line.

      Here’s a list of my credentials:

      Certified Linear Affairs Specialist (CLAS)

      Advanced Parallel Line Coordination Certified

      Doctor of Perpendicular Studies

      International Straight Line Compliance Officer

      Certified Angle Management Professional (CAMP)

      Applied Theoretical Line Engineer