I’ve seen alot of calls for violence in America. Whether it be directed at the president or Federal officers, many people are advocating for an escalation in response to the current situation.
And believe me, I do understand. what I see happening in America is horrifying. But all I am imploring is to really think about what your asking for. Because you can’t put the genie in the bottle once you’ve left it out.
If you’re really gung-ho about it, go and ask a Veteran of Iraq or Afghanistan about it and see what they think. If anyone will know about it they will.
I am going to link a YouTube Playlist. Its the Associated Press Archives of the Bosnian-Serbian war. Because THAT is what will happen if wide scale violence breaks out. Except what will happen in America will be a hundred times worse.
The Bosnian war was pretty much broken up along ethnic lines. “Well it’s going to be Conservative VS. Liberal” you say. Except it won’t be. It will be anyone having a grudge against someone going after them.
ALOT of personal animosity will be taken out in the first few weeks I feel.
And I think the Seige of Sarajavo will be writ large in American cities across the country. Imagine having to dodge sniper fire on your way to get to your job at Wendy’s.
Because that’s the other thing no one is thinking about. You are still going to have to make a living while this is all going to be happening. And the cost of everything will skyrocket. Shipping will probably have to be escorted from place to place because people will be stealing or even blockading locations because they’re “damn dirty libs” or “Fascist Conservatives” Fresh produce will become a thing of the past.
Canada and Mexico will close their borders due to all the refugee’s trying to cross. so if you thinking of doing it, do it the moment everything pops off because otherwise you won’t get in.
Basically Civil war is going to the worst thing to happen in America in a long time. and the only good that comes out of it will be Americans will finally have first hand experience of real war torn violence. And maybe that will hopefully last for another two hundred years or so.
If America even survives the outcome that is.
History repeats itself—if we let it.
When building power, some leaders pick a group to blame: Hitler targeted Jews, Trump vilified immigrants. Once momentum builds, the list of “enemies” grows—anyone who disagrees becomes a target.
Recognizing these patterns is the first step to stopping them. Let’s learn from the past and stand against division.
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Well, Trump and MAGA have ensured that the US is cooked anyway no matter what happens
Answering a question that who asked? Who would think war is a video game? Everyone’s a badass until they’re on the wrong end of a shooting range. If war causes infrastructure collapse to shipping of critical supplies like foods and fuels tens of millions could die, or more. Exposure, lack of meds (like insulin, anti-rejection, etc.), and lack of clean water will wipe out a huge number of people, too.
I heard there’s no respawns in IRL.
In real life when you get hit, hiding behind cover does not regenerate your health and picking up health packs or eating food does nothing.
Also most war will be 99% boredom and 1% sheer terror.
of course not, you gotta eat a first aid kit
The next “civil war” will just be a series of Luigi-like instances. My prediction is that the justice system will simply start failing to get grand jury indictments like they did with the ham sandwhich throwing incident.
“Start failing”??? That ship has done sailed.
The question is what the alternative would be. Look at history for the answer. The easy comparison would be Germany leading up to, during, and after World War 2, but that would be low-hanging fruit considering how very directly the US regime is trying to force other countries to join them. (Anschluss, anyone?) Look also at the countries where extremist regimes took over and didn’t get forced out until years later and the damages they did to their country and the people living in it. Unfortunately too many examples there to name. The US regime and their stormtroopers will continue to harass, arrest, and outright kill people who have a legal right to live in the US simply over the color of their skin or otherwise until they are stopped. And they will most assuredly not stop by the power of fingerwagging and strongly stated words.
you dont get battle lines until there’s been a few years of mass killings on both sides, before Regime Loyalist and Opposition “states” or lines solidify.
One side in this supposed civil war has a monopoly on weapons, training, tactics, supplies, and political power. The other side has legal weed dispensaries. It wouldn’t be a civil war, more like a Gaza style genocide.
Also, many progressive cities are literally surrounded by conservative suburbs and rural areas. It wouldn’t be difficult to cut the cities off from food supplies.
I have a hard time believing the higher IQ people would fall easily. Think about how insecure , scared and absolutely stupid most MAGATs are about literally everything. Plus there’s a real possibility we would get into alliances that want to preserve democracy
Yeah no shit. Who thinks that?
The half of Lemmy who are like “Why you guys no shooting?” I mean, to say something so stupid, one must think war and battle are just a walk in the park.
It’s because USA touts that guns are needed to fight an over reaching government, except its clear that the fascist rising is going unchecked. So they are taking a jab at the fallacy of guns are needed against a government.
From what I can tell, those seem to be non-USians saying things like that.
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you are saying this like the terms of the required action are dictated by the oppressed, and they bear the responsibility of the result. but that is wholly decided by the regime. if your asking people to weigh the cost of freedom verses the ease of tyranny, just remember that time does not make the cost any more palatable, it makes it worse.
“Americans will finally have first hand experience of real war torn violence”
Someone missed the War on Drugs which is just another genocide. Also millions of Americans live under the threat of gun death everyday. Have you ever ducked when you hear a gun shot? This is the reality for many urban citizens.
We lose the equivalent of a ongoing war 40-60k gun deaths every year and have so for the last several decades to gun death.
“Over 1.5 million gun deaths occurred in the U.S. between 1968 and 2017, exceeding combined American military deaths in all wars (Revolutionary, Civil, World Wars, Korea, Vietnam, etc.).”
Our government is the most evil collaboration of wealthy people the world has ever scene. They have their hands in everything and control the majority of the world.
We have always been at war with ourselves. I have lost multiple people in my life to gun violence. I know many people’s lives ruined by the war on drugs. We have destroyed tens of millions of families and show no interest in slowing down.
We lock up a disproportional amount of people in the US accounting for 20% of the world’s prison population but only 4% of the world’s population.
We were cooked frogs a long time ago.
I’m dead in a month as soon as any major part of our infrastructure/supply chain crumbles. yaaaay.
I do wonder if I’m on somebody’s list.
Americans are sadly locked into the path of violence as the other path will force them to face their systemic racism, and corporate idolization which is clearly not going to happen.
It took Nicole Good to be face shot before people really started to react despite 4 other similar events with non white females and I am constantly shocked how many Americans defend corporations that are literally exploiting them. America is cooked unfortunately as like most humans, myself included, we tend to become blind with power.
Corporations became the dominate force in our culture and in every culture around the world. 90% + of all policy in the whole world is written by corporations. There isn’t a country that exist without widening income inequality.
It would be great if this was just an American problem. It isn’t. The wealthy will use their favorite proxy the corporation to run humanity into the ground. They have already poisoned the entire planet time and time again. They are the biggest threat humanity has ever seen.
They make the Nazi look wholesome. Remember it was IBM that developed the numbering system for Jews and also helped figure out how many Jews needed to be cleared out of the Ghetto daily for the final solution. Likewise MS, Google, Meta, etc. have been giving material support to genocide.
Honest question: were the other events filmed like Rene’s killing was? My hypothesis is that’s it’s more about the available footage of the incident than the victim’s demographics… But the USA is racist as fuck so I could be wrong.
For me it was the blunt justification of horrific indiscriminate killing of children with sniper rifle, tens of gun shots, and dropping bomb dirctlt on school and hospital. Seeing how the media did everything to cover it up, politician working overtime to censor protest, and Democrat , and Republican presidents shipping an absurd amount of tax money directly to fund the genociders what made it clear that the US corporations, and government will kill anything in their way to ensure US and other nations are slave.
The only way around this is to wait until US invade another Nato or EU country and for these country to withdraw rich people ability to leave the US. Then a revolution might be successful.
Renee Good was her name. Not Nicole. Sucks that attention was only given after a white LGBT woman was killed. Still sucks even more that she was killed. I am haunted by the pictures of her glove box. It was filled with stuffed animals for her child.
It was Nicole. Renee Nicole Good
you could say they were either build up or outshined by Nicole shooting. plus she was protesting ice for deporting people to labor camps. its not “this one thing did it” its gradual
I am not sure the point you are trying to make. Can you rephrase please.
the problem with a civil war is collapse of the supply chain for most people, and you’ll have to become useful to get protection
