There is no incentive to comply. They want violence. Give them violence. They are going to kill you either way.
You wont win against the most expensive military in the world. The only option I see is a general strike.
Well the economic desperation is certainly on the horizon. People are held back by their finances and jobs right now. When they cant meet their needs any more, they wont hold back.
And I’m sure we’ll be seeing you on the front lines actively fighting against ICE…
Unless you’re part of the Black Panthers, I find these Internet tough guy comments laughable and even I who have went to the No Kings protests carrying, I’m not going to be fighting multiple ICE agents if they ask for papers please on my minority ass.
I’m not really sure what this comment was trying to do. I’m scared like anyone else. My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.
I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.
My fight or flight response is geared heavily toward stand-still-and-hope-their-vision-is-based-on-movement, so unless I’m fighting a t-rex I’m hosed.
I’m not pretending I’m all powerful. I’m stating compliance is nonsensical.
Oh for fucks sake there Internet Bravado, you might not have understood what my point was damn you sure as hell proved it.
Don’t go around telling others to fight and die when you aren’t willing to do so yourself.
I’m not Jason Bourne. I’m some dude on the internet. And you don’t fight hoping solely for your benefit. You fight so those who follow have better odds.
If it makes you feel any better, I already know what’s coming for me here. I’m part of a population that will absolutely end up in a mass grave before this ends.
Lol nevermind, we have a whole rl documentation with Germany on what leads to what and still people think it will be different for them.
That’s why I am convinced the US will go through terrible times until it can get better.
You NEED to Comply with These Unknown Heavily Armed Men otherwise they have EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to KILL YOU!
-People who Complained about Rights during Covid!
What’s worse is that ICE is just a bunch of untrained hicks with a badge
Because they don’t give a shit whether you’re you’re a US citizen or not. They just want to hurt brown people.
Do the Americans not realise that… like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.
100%, my family only came to this god awful country to escape the Holocaust before it began. I find it absolutely absurd that now we have decided to shut our border. Even crazier is they keep saying they want legal immigration yet they make it impossible to do so.
Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn’t give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.
Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That’s disgustingly low, too… But still, he does it anyway.
This isn’t new. Most Americans have no agency. We’re just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.
For every sane person speaking out, there’s two to three others that have given up on everything. They’ll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don’t do anything. They don’t vote, they just take it because they’ve given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.
native Americans
Even they are being snatched off streets and “detained”.
Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves “expats”, most don’t seem to get that, no.
Isn’t an expat usually somebody who is sent abroad for work by his employee?
An expat is anyone who lives outside of their native country while intending to return, while an immigrant is someone who moves to another country permanently.
One reason why you rarely hear about American “immigrants” to other countries is that it is absurdly hard to relinquish US citizenship. So even if an American were to gain citizenship elsewhere, they still owe US income tax, and are reminded of their status every April.
They still have to file income taxes. But, most places have higher taxes than the USA. Most places also have reciprocal tax agreements with the US. There’s also a deduction of something like $100k, so the first $100k (or local equivalent) you earn in another country isn’t taxed. As a result, unless you’re making high six figures, you don’t actually owe any American taxes.
OTOH, just filing US taxes is a real pain in the ass. In the US it’s made very slightly easier by your employer, bank, etc. all supplying you with the tax forms you need. If you’re overseas, you need to figure out the info you’d need to supply on that form yourself.
Sure, but that only seems to apply to Americans, and in some parts Brits.
It is less of a US thing, and more of a class thing. Expats are temporary work assignments overseas usually for high paying leadership positions.
White = Expat
Anything else = Immigrant
It’s really that simple
An expat is an immigrant who is white.
Too many Americans think “immigrant” is just a synonym for “not white”.
Which is stupid because their ancestors aren’t from this land. And millions of “not-whites” were forced to come here! Not that they will ever understand that.
When those immigrants were coming to the US, they were not considered “white”. Sometimes the discrimination was because of skin colour, sometimes it was religion. But, they weren’t considered to have the morals and work ethic of the English-descended protestants that dominated the USA.
I’m not even talking about “immigrants.” I’m talking about even older ancestors. Invaders.
The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.
They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.
That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.
Not to mention that ICE is frequently abducting Native Americans because they’re brown
It’s not about imigration. Only brown and black are “imigrants”.
…although even white women are being killed now
Do the Americans not realise that…
No.
This is the 21st century version of Manifest Destiny. Their immigrant status doesn’t matter because they’re white and therefore superior.
Yes, the majority of us do.
They have arrest quotas, not identification quotas. They don’t care.
There are plenty of illegal Caucasians from eastern Europe. Basically untouched by the US version of the SS and NKVD.
For now.
I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.
It’s because the justification that the Administration keeps giving is that they are getting “criminals” off the streets. So it’s worth in these articles when ICE picks up citizens who have no criminal record. It directly illustrates how they lie.
I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they’re doing. Don’t afford it ant legitimacy. There’s no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.
The problem is that, as US government officials, their words matter. Their official statements are newsworthy, even if they are lies. The media can’t really ignore what they say. They can, however, illustrate when they are lying, even if this Administration throws a hissy-fit over it.
Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren’t actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they’re bigots. They’re white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.
I think you are confusing the legitimacy of their positions and their message. Their positions are legitimate because, unfortunately, they gained their positions legitimately, either through elections or some other documented process. That’s on us, ultimately. That makes what they have to say a matter of public record, and newsworthy. (There are a handful of Administration positions that are illegitimate, such as all these acting US attorneys, and the Courts are dealing with that separately.)
The message is utter bullshit, and at least in some cases, not what their voters intended when they cast their vote. But how will those voters ever know if the message is never challenged in the first place?
I believe it is possible to report the Administration’s positions, while also attempting to hold them to account. The alternative is for the media to ignore it altogether. But we all know Conservative media won’t do that. If other media simply refuses to cover the Administration entirely, that doesn’t invalidate their message. Only by letting us know what they are saying, as well as how bonkers it all is, do we have any chance of emerging from this.
Carrying your documents around seems like a great way to have them stolen from you during your ‘arrest’. You’d be lucky to see them again.
Right. I hear people pushing passport cards. I can so easily imagine
“Here’s my passport card”
“Thanks”
“Where’s your id?”
“I gave you my passport card”
“No you didn’t/what passport card?”
To prevent these tragedies, the Trump administration will simply offer numerical tattoos that can’t be lost.
when ICE decides you look like an immigrant.
Not surprising they have all sorts of Aryanisms as they seek to carve out a white ethnostate.
Not only that, but they have an app that is supposed to help them figure out your status using facial recognition. They are admitting that they only harass people who their app thinks looks un-American. And they believe their app even if you have valid documents that say otherwise.
https://www.npr.org/2025/11/08/nx-s1-5585691/ice-facial-recognition-immigration-tracking-spyware
Betcha they have it programmed to recognize racial-specific features, something the Nazis built up to ID who is “Aryan”, including purported facial bone structure.
Another U.S. citizen: 22-year-old Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales was in custody for 25 days and transported to facilities in Louisiana, Texas, and New Jersey. In one detention center, she told WJZ Investigates she slept on the floor.
Her legal team provided documents, including her Maryland birth certificate and immunization records, along with other records they said they verified through an expert at Johns Hopkins University, but the Trump Administration is not backing down.
she now must wear an ankle monitor.
“Land of the free, home of the brave.”
Gimme a break.
Always been pure propaganda.
Most of them can’t read or function at a adult level. They get paid by the kidnapping so they don’t care enough to look for proof.
You can’t negotiate with terrorists. They aren’t there for a legitimate purpose. ICE is a Run-Hide-Fight encounter.
Lol omg. Imagine living in a country where you have to carry citizen paperwork around or get fucked over because you’re a different colour. What a shithole.
Welcome back to Nazi Germany, because that’s what the country that used to be the Land of the Free is turning into.
This time, without trains on time though.
…or trains at all, tbh
Whoever told you that was your enemy
Edit: you folk don’t listen to much RATM huh?
Curse you, Mrs. Stovall, my 3rd grade teacher!
Whoever told you the opposite was your enemy
Oh geeze I guess I just don’t know my enemy.
You are blind to your enemy. They have blinded you and now you are blind.
no no, that “or” should be an “and” – having paperwork doesn’t save you from getting fucked over
What paper work? The birth certificates from the 80s here are like a piece of construction paper. No one is going to believe that is real.
Nothing else to do than die in that case.
Nah. The best we can do is just record and hope it uploads before they break the device
