So, lets say we get to August or some summer month, and 4,000,000 people are protesting right out front the white house.
Do they send in the tanks? Do they kill 1,000,000 people? Would republican civilians see empathy for the dead americans who were democrats? Or would it unite the nation like 9/11 did, except this time against the government?
I don’t think playing right into the arms industry’s bosom is good advice unless you’re serious about actually training and organizing around using a gun.
Owning a gun doesn’t fix anything, hell using a gun doesn’t fix anything. There’s no guarantee when/if shit gets stupid you’ll even be able to get enough ammo for the thing (let alone the issues with caching a large amount of ammo).
The only way guns are going to matter in a realistic sense is if people are afraid to shoot you because they’ll get shot. If there’s actually some kind of civil war you’ll get guns an ammo from the army.
I’ve always just gone to the range with my friends who have guns. I’m not going to give the gun industry here a dime they don’t need.
“The last rope they sell us will be the one we hang them with.” I don’t like the idea of giving money to war profiteers any more than you do, but it is an unfortunate necessity.
Um… yes. That’s the point?
From what army? What are you talking about?
Is your plan to rely on the US government to arm the proletariat?
This is what you’re saying will happen as a bunch of internet users with discretionary spending individually buy themselves a third tier weapon from Uncle Sam’s Gun Shop.
1776 only happened because france fucked with the UK’s big cash cow in the carribean at the same time. And it still resulted in chattel slavery. If thats your model for proletarian revolution it sucks.
It was the slave revolts afterward that ended slavery and caused the south to rise up becausw they saw the writing on the wall. Do you think the slaves went out and bought their own guns?
Now, the US has the highest incarceration rate per capita and ICE is funded currently to double the amount of prisoners in the country.
Individualistic, consumerist thinking will not result in a “proletarian revolution” that’s just a bunch of people cosplaying freedom while they ignore the actual shit going on around them.
What a bunch of delusional nonsense. If enslaved people had the opportunity to buy guns, then obviously they would have, and obviously they would’ve been right to do so. Perhaps I should avoid reading and writing, since slaves were often not permitted to learn those things.
1776 was a bourgeois revolution, it is not “my model for proletarian revolution” and I don’t have the slightest idea where you pulled that from. You are aware that countries outside of the US have had revolutions, right?
“Buy a gun” is not “individualistic, consumerist thinking” you absolute clown.
1776 was the revolution where a bunch of people “bought guns” its the “individual buys a gun” revolution. You know the exact thing you’ve been saying and then getting upset whenever anyone elaborates on it in any way.
Nobody in any other revolution bought any guns.
Again: Do you understand that countries outside of the US exist?
That’s obviously not what I’m saying. Most revolutions people did not buy the gun they used. The only examples we have of ones where everyone “bought their own guns” sucks. That’s what I’m saying.
This line of “logic” is so fucking ridiculous I don’t even know how to reason with it.
Let’s say “the army” decides to start handing out guns to people. What if they don’t have enough guns to go around? Because it seems to me, that every gun a person already has is one less gun that “the army” has to procure somehow. It kinda seems like people who did the evil bad “individualist consumerism” of bringing their own guns to the revolution are actually bringing a greater contribution than they would have been able to otherwise, doesn’t it?
This comes down to ammo. if you have a bunch of guns they’re going to be useful until it runs out of ammo. If you are caching huge amounts of ammo and guns then yes that’s useful as long as you or your allies keep control of it. And caching ammo is harder and more expensive than just buying a gun.
Like if your “military” is providing .223 ammo that .308 rifle isn’t going to be too useful for very long.
The consumerist stuff isn’t “bad” its just “not useful” to the point I’d say its “deliberate misdirection”.