What happens if the sun shines onto your solar panels, and you have too much power. I guess you could cover the panels with a blanket in such a case, but that would be manual intervention …

Do you need to consume all electric power you generate? Ways of wasting power include … heating water or electrostatics.

Most people would put surplus power they produce into the grid, but this is connected to government / cooperate regulations and paperwork, some would like to avoid that.

An island solution with solar panels is not connected to the power grid at all…

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    Nothing happens, the controller will open the circuit and prevent the current from flowing.

    Optimal solution is biting the bullet and getting batteries, the controller will prevent them from being overcharged, and you will need stored energy on an island.

    You could try gravity storage like the other person mentioned but it’s less efficient. During the day the solar panels power a pump/motor to move water/heavy object up high, and at night the water/object moves back down and powers a generator. There’s a lot more loss since you’re going:

    solar energy>electrical energy>rotational energy>hydraulic energy/potential energy>rotational energy>electrical energy

    and each transition will have losses due to friction and heat.

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    I’ve asked the same question before for small scale at home surplus.

    For a small/medium grid like a whole island, it’s easier. You generally know ahead of time when there is going to end up being a surplus, so you can let storage get low preemptively. This includes batteries, pumped hydro, heating water, heating/cooling homes, etc.

    If that’s not enough, you can run some high energy cost things that dont have to run all the time like desalination or electrolysis.

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    Setup a gravitational battery. Use extra power to lift rocks/weights that you will then lower, generating power, when not enough sun.

    Not common, but proven solution.

    Better and more efficient: have batteries.

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    Have a battery that stores the surplus electricity for later use. That’s pretty standard for solar installations.

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        An island solar system without batteries make little sense.

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          What to do if the batteries are fully charged? The charge controller will save the batteries? But how, what happens with the power, is it converted to heat?

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              I think their question makes sense. The light is hitting the solar panel regardless of whether there’s current flowing or not. Where does that light energy go?

              As far as I know, it gets converted to heat in the panel and vented off, but maybe there’s something else to it.

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                There’s only so much voltage that will ever get created in each cell by exposure to light. Only so many electrons that get knocked free. Once that level is hit, nothing else happens that wouldn’t also happen to a stone, or your skin. Electrical energy doesn’t build up.

                Yes, most likely the light is just converted to heat. But that’s not special.

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                  The critical part is that the electrons moving consumes energy from the incoming light, reducing the heat being generated while current is flowing. A disconnected solar panel will heat up a bit more than a connected one, but the difference in Watts per area is low enough the panel can just dissipate the extra unused heat to the surrounding air without any issues (unless you’re in the desert, maybe it’s possible they could overheat there, but this would likely be an issue even when generating power).

                  Modern solar panels are only about 20% efficient, so the panel would only heat up an extra 20% if disconnected in direct sun

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              electric potential? is the solar circuit a giant capacitor with a stored charge then?

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                This is a bit complicated, but basically, energy is powertime and power is intensitytension. Now if you have too much power, because you can’t affect the flow of time (sad), you either change tension or intensity. The easiest is to just lower intensity (or cut it out entirely). If you just open your circuit, your intensity falls to 0. So your power falls to 0 and everything is fine. Just like how when you stop a windmill rotating it doesn’t produce any power.

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                Maybe you could think of it that way, but I don’t think PV cells store much charge, so they’d make pretty crappy capacitors.

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    It’s fine, charge controller handles it, you do not need to “use up” excess energy. Functionally, there’s essentially an automated switch in the charge controller that interrupts the solar circuit when the batteries are full.

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      circuit breaker yesss this is the answer I wanted i.g.

      interrupts the solar circuit