• amne@mander.xyz
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    3 days ago

    if you don’t find that kind of life worth living, stop supporting the system. if you support a system that enables you to use drugs and listen to really old music, then i guess you find it worth living for.

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      3 days ago

      Maybe it’s all the drugs (did more than enough, long ago) but I’m genuinely unsure what you’re trying to say. It doesn’t take a lot of institutional support to get high and listen to music, I get a vague sense you think I’m supporting something and find that hypocritical. Care to elaborate?

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        2 days ago

        No, i’m just saying that you’re executing the cycle op is talked about either way. Up to you to do what you want with that.

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            2 days ago

            That’s for you to answer for yourself.

            The original statement is a framework, or a formula like a+b=c. You define what kind of life is “worthwhile” and what the “system” is. You plug in your own values. If a system doesn’t align with the life you want - whether you’re coerced into it or not - you don’t have to support it. The logic is about your agency. If you’re stuck in a system you didn’t choose, the question is: What can you do to change your situation? What kind of a sub-system can you adopt? The statement doesn’t demand loyalty. It’s about recognizing what truly supports the life you want and acting on that - whether that means surrendering, adapting, resisting, or leaving. It’s always about your judgment.

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              2 days ago

              I obviously reject the original framing and was really hoping to hear your answer. That a system supports a life you find worthwhile does not mean it is inherently worth supporting.

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                20 hours ago

                That a system supports a life you find worthwhile does not mean it is inherently worth supporting.

                That’s not the claim made in op. Op makes exactly 0 claims on what kind of life one SHOULD think is worthwhile, or what kind of system SHOULD be. The point is that it’s on the reader to figure out for themselves. Again, you input your own values into the framework.

                You define what kind of life is worthwhile.

                You support a system that you KNOW enables it.

                It would NOT make sense to NOT support a system that enables it.

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                  18 hours ago

                  You’re lost in the sauce man, high on your own supply, huffing your own farts. If you aren’t intentionally misinterpreting what I said you’re dumb as hell. I’m here to understand and communicate, not mud wrassle, and it’s no fun trying to spoonfeed each word to someone so dense and/or hostile. You’re obnoxious enough I’d rather just touch grass, so call that a “win” if you’d like and thank you for getting me off the screen