Hi, I wanted to try Debian but i found out that its foundation relies heavily on systemd. I’m using a Lenovo Ideapad 500-15isk that’s why I want to be away from systemd’s bloat, I’m still not an advanced user but i had Ubuntu + KDE for 2 Years (GUI only) then used CachyOS + Hyprland(Caelestia shell) for 1.5 years ( Used Terminal more than GUI). This time I want to make the OS usage as low as possible but also not old/ugly. Thank you in advance.


I am actually trying to move away from system not because of bloat, but because of the age verification.
Not sure if they will keep pushing it after it is clear that linux have been excampted from new laws, I am currently just waiting and see
Actually from what I know they just added a date of birth option, it is not an age verification.
Systemd: hate it for what it is and how it’s built, and continue hating it for its capitulation to intrusive surveillance.
The silence from some of the systemd fan club is deafening. For years, anyone criticizing systemd’s expansion was treated as a luddite. Suggest an alternative init system and you would get lectures about how systemd had already won and everyone else should just accept it. Meanwhile, people were showing up in Void Linux communities asking why Void refused to “modernize” by adopting systemd, as if distributions couldn’t possibly make different design choices.
Now when age verification was introduced in systemd without discussion, a lot of those voices seem remarkably quiet. Apparently the concerns were only stupid when other people raised them. Bigots.