Some accounts are deleting their posts after a few downvotes. It’s devastating on communities like c/asklemmy.

Lemmy doesn’t track an account’s karma like reddit. So, all downvotes will be isolated to your post or comment and won’t affect your account—unless you wrote something truly horrible.

Remember lemmy is a community effort. Deleting a post also removes all comments on it. So you are not only robbing the effort others put in, you are actively removing knowledge from the fediverse. Others won’t be able to find it through search and lemmy will seem lonelier than it already is.

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    Not everyone downvoting wants the censure of your post or comment, no.

    For instance, I downvoted this comment because I think it’s a poor generalization and I’d rather have better thought out comments promoted, not because I want it censored.

    How can it be on the downvoters when there is typically no justification tied to a downvote? Misinterpretation is on the poster, not on the downvoter.

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      This. But having worked in people management before I also understand that there are infinite ways different people might interpret one thing

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      For instance, I downvoted this comment because I think it’s a poor generalization and I’d rather have better thought out comments promoted

      You could achieve that by up voting the others that are better and not down voting anything. Causes useless negativity, which is the reason why many big platform removed it or never introduced it. At least, you gave a comment and explained your view. That’s usually what I do instead of down voting.

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        No, it is not the same thing. A downvote is disapproval, an upvote is approval, and no vote is neutral.

        The only way to have the same outcome than a downvote with only upvotes is to upvote every single other comment, and that means I lose the ability to specifically approve and promote other comments that I think specifically deserve more visibility.

        Seeing a downvote as negativity is an interpretation problem. All it means is that people disapprove with you, and that is okay. If you are downvoted more than upvoted, then you know your opinion is unpopular. Doesn’t meant it’s bad or good.

        For instance, I neither downvoted nor upvoted your comment, because I consider it a valuable part of the conversation, but I still don’t approve it.

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          No, it is not the same thing. A downvote is disapproval, an upvote is approval, and no vote is neutral.

          I find it interesting that you see my “downvote = negativity” as an interpretation problem, but that you don’t see that what you just wrote is your interpretation of the buttons. At no place in any Lemmy documentation and not anywhere in any Lemmy app or web app is written what you just wrote. It’s your interpration of the meaning of the buttons.

          For me:

          • Upvote can be approval or even a something I disagree with, but is well argued or I want to see more of it
          • Clicking nothing means “I don’t care”
          • Downvotes are disabled by my instance, which is good. I can’t see downvotes and can’t give them.
          • Comments allow me to disagree and share my arguments why I disaggree (as I do now).
          • And if something is so bad that it should be gone, there is still the possibility to report a post or comment

          The only way to have the same outcome than a downvote with only upvotes is to upvote every single other comment

          But why is that even necessary? Why are you even wasting your energy to click that button? If it’s really bad, one can report it. If it’s not worth to report, one can leave it and focus on other stuff. I seriously don’t understand it. My only explanation is “doing it like that because we have always done it that way” and this is why I totally understand why most big platforms removed such a downvote feature.

          If you are downvoted more than upvoted, then you know your opinion is unpopular. Doesn’t meant it’s bad or good.

          Not even unpopular in general… Unpopular in a specific bubble at a specific time. But I agree. Combined with a karma system, it’d unfortunately by a toxic combination… (Reddit)

          For instance, I neither downvoted nor upvoted your comment, because I consider it a valuable part of the conversation, but I still don’t approve it.

          That confuses me now, because it feels like the point I’m trying to make.