• flandish@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    the current history of this war has shown that promises are largely false. except the promise of profit. profit always wins in wars.

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      But often also those who fight for their survival survive and are so happy that they are still living, that profit is less important for them.

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        sure. i mean that applies to all facets of life these days sadly.

        i just dont “believe” anything about war except profit.

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            working class people and the status of their survival, during war, is largely dismissed by the owning class that is profiting off of said war.

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                  I don’t know what you’re trying to say, but pointing out that some people profit from war doesn’t change the fact that many people fight because they want to survive and that they have a legitimate reason to fight and they should do everything to survive.

                  Saying that war is about profit is also a superficial statement that doesn’t mean anything. You can make everything about profit. Was this war about profit? I think you will find most wars aren’t.

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                    Was this war about profit? I think you will find most wars aren’t.

                    I feel like you’re forgetting about Russia. Russia started the war for profit, Ukraine fights back for survival. Most wars are, in fact, started for profit - for one side anyway.

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                    most wars arent? you’re kidding right? iraq, iraq, afghanistan, vietnam, korea… ok so maybe i mean the US,UK, Israel involvement is always about profit.

                    And look the US is involved in the war between ukraine and russia, no?

                    there is always profit. while working class people die. convinced they are being helped. defending themselves.

                    i wish them the best, of course, but there is no denying it that there is nothing but profit to be had when wars like this have folks like the us convinced they need to help.

                    what i am trying to say is that russia will keep going as long as it can, and the us and others will keep pretending to help ukraine until the profit runs out. then more people will die. we can only hope russia will give up first.