I can’t say I never downvote anyone but I get into these comment chains from time to time where really no matter what I post whoever I’m talking to downvotes every response but I generally shy away from downvoting even things I dislike. I don’t want to fall into an echo chamber where all I see are only the things I agree with.
I just down vote when I see low quality content or irrelevant or poorly supported arguments. I have upvoted takes I disagree with and then commented about why I disagree. It’s not supposed to be a disagree button, it’s suppressed to be a “move this down in the feed” button.
Nope!
I don’t even care about the accidental ones that happen from scrolling while tired.
Worst that happens is the hot feed gets negligibly shifted until the next person comes along.
I think there’s more users like you than me. I appreciate the candid answer.
Yeah, I try to give everyone uppies unless they’re being a bigger jerk than me. The accidental downvotes, they happen but like I usually catch them
Votes don’t matter. Upvotes can’t pay your rent or buy food. Downvotes won’t put you in prison.
Vote however you want, that’s why it’s here.
It does depend how we are defining what matters. By your definition very few things matter. As a location for discourse it matters in how people related to said discourse in that votes can help push or diminish narratives and craft a location that is or is not an echo chamber. We’re all aware what people see shapes their views and their views shape their actions and their actions shape the world. So I’m not sure I agree that the culture of a platform, the content that is pushed doesn’t matter.
It depends on how an individual consumes Lemmy. I don’t see votes and my client neither buries nor highlights comments based on votes. I only browse by new or active.
This means that votes have little to no impact to what I consume or interact with.
As I’ve said elsewhere. I don’t care if you downvote, I’ve seen what you upvote.
Here, it is usually because I didn’t say things in the right way some leftists want.
Yeah the political aspect of Lemmy is quite ubiquitous and specific. I’m neither left or right in that I would prefer a science based political system that optimizes HDI, GDPPP, and environmental impact. Any dissent or questioning either way is typically met with downvotes in the respective areas where people have a political leaning right or left.
Try to live your life without worrying about votes.
Nah. I want to make sure I’m being kind enough to not deserve downvotes. It’s a lifelong battle.
34 upvotes so far! Nice work!
Its more so a curiosity. I’ve noticed others behaviors and was wondering who lives for the downvote vs who is rarely smashing the down vote. This platform kinda fundamentally runs on down and upvotes.
This platform does not run on upvotes and downvotes, that’s Reddit. There is no algorithm here that is influenced by votes. In fact, there are some instances that don’t show or allow downvotes at all.
I don’t think that’s true.
Lemmy uses vote counts to decide what content to show, just like reddit. The details are described here:
https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html
The main difference between lemmy and reddit regarding votes, that I’m aware of, is that the votes a user receives are not collated and shown on their profile.
The algorithm is between your left and right ear. If you believe votes have no influence on users behavior then I have some unfortunate news for you.
You specifically said “this platform”. This platform does not run on upvotes and downvotes.
My dude, we are part of this platform and some of us seem to care. So I’d say yes, it runs on those as well, but way less than others.
I also said the algorithm is between your left and right ear, aka your brain. People act and react to stimulus accordingly. Downvote and upvotes psychology still exists on Lemmy.
Never accept criticism from someone you wouldn’t take advice from.
I will gladly downvote anyone. People be saying some dumb shit.
Is it dumb or is it that you think it’s dumb. To be or not to be. You see I disagree with a lot of people but I see where they are coming from so I don’t think they are literally idiotic. I’m more apprehensive about living in a system where I only ever see what is agreement with whatever I think aka an echo chamber.
Nah it’s dumb
It is pretty common that people treat their views as an infallible truth. Anything they think is good and smart and any disagreement is bad and dumb.
People are waaaay to judgy and rarely think outside of their bubble, country, ‘layer’ or can relate that there are differences beyond their knowledge. That’s why I only downvote when I am mostly sure to understand all this context, not just because I don’t like or agree with a statement 🤷
I also often get a lot of downvotes due to this ironically since I try to understand and ask questions (non hostile!) because I don’t understand.
It seems you and I are birds of a feather. Same experience here. Any divergence from the accepted norm, even if it’s just inquiry is typically met with downvotes. That is most places trend towards an echo chamber, not just here but anywhere online.
I will absolutely downvote some people I disagree with if I think they are making a bad faith argument or I think their view is bad. If the masses decide my opinion is wrong then it will work out in the end. If not, then it must have been a bad comment.
You are, I am, we are the masses. I don’t mind disagreeing with people. I would be more bothered to be somewhere where everyone agrees and we have a culture of chasing off anyone who doesn’t aka an echo chamber. I’ll downvote people being mean because we can disagree and have civil discussion. Also someone blatantly trolling.
I didn’t say I downvote based on disagreeing. I said I downvote based on if it’s dumb. There are plenty of people that I disagree with that have salient points. The morons are the ones that get the downvote.
Ever notice how people tend to judge other’s intelligence by how much their opinions match their own?
Don’t up/downvote for agree or dislike. People are allowed to have differing opinions. I downvote for hate, or bad faith. Very little else.
Similar, if someone is just being mean to be mean.
I do once in awhile but honestly I hate public voting. I would not mind a private ranking system for the feed that worked the way trustcafe works. I mean peoples public voting won’t effect the way I peruse the feed but yeah some things are bad enough that I feel I should hit the down arrow. I upvote practically everything though as it marks it as read for my feed view.
I downvote comments that clearly break the rules of the community they’re posted in.
This. The original intent of the downvote on reddit was for things that actively take away from the conversations; not merely because you disagree with it.
Equally, the upvote was for things that contribute, not just for things you like.
Very fair.
Being downvoted yourself is not reason to start downvoting.
Now when people post links to videos without a text synopsis, that’s a reason to downvote.
What if they’re trying not to ruin spoilers?
Use the spoiler tags, that’s what they’re for.
Fair
Social feedback is important. It’s not supposed to feel good, but it IS vital to building a healthy community. You need a sense of social awareness to evaluate your own ideas, even if the responder can’t clearly articulate their opposition.at the very least it says your presentation needs work.
Dialog also isn’t free. It’s easy to demand someone defend their position for you, but real, thoughtful articulation takes time and effort. Many will offer it freely, but not everyone can afford to entertain you and not every argument is worth the effort. Their rejection of your premises stil matter.
A world with only likes should terrify you. It’s the world of the executive surround by yes-men driving his company and the world to ruin. Human life requires friction. Every dislike is your ideas coming into contact with reality.
I feel the same. The only times I (intentionally) down vote are for things like spam or people throwing insults around with zero substance. It’s basically a button for increasing/decreasing visibility, and you get much more interesting discussions when it involves views you disagree with.
I’m indifferent, really. You can make the most benign post/comment possible and someone will downvote you for it, so you’ll get used to it. Plus, too many people here think downvotes are for disagreeing.
And just to prove my point, I downvoted your question for absolutely no reason. Idc how you vote in return, if at all.
Have a nice day ❤️
I upvoted you actually. Like anywhere online I’ve seen very negative people who get joy from others feeling bad or thinking they have made them feel bad. I always want to have a candid discussion with someone like that because it’s very curious to me.
So far the people I’ve been able to accomplish that with are very discontent in their life or something specific in their human experience but it’s a very small sample size. Most keep with shallow discussion more so like they’re playing a character.
I like how it’s easy to see how many up and down votes you have, and not just total like on reddit.
I’m using boost so that doesn’t seem to be a thing. Are you mainly on the website or another third party app?
Mainly Voyager app. Checked the piefed site, looks like it groups together and you need to long press over a vote to see distribution. Well, yeah, that’s worse.
Thanks for the info, I’ll give it a try.
