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      I recently found out that this is a surprisingly common option for new cars.

      Its having “pc beeper comes with the case and not the motherboard” vibes to me. Something legacy.

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      I think it’s an accessory you can buy. The quality seems to be on par with the rest of the thing.

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      You can’t call the Aztec ugly when You compare it to the ugliest car in history. Except the Fiat Multipla of course.

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    As a former boy scout, my least favorite kind of person to go camping with is anyone who never bothered to figure out how any of their gear works. They inevitably show up in the dark and gripe about stuff like it’s in Swedish Ikea directions format, start off the first day grumpy as hell cause they froze their asses off on the hard ground and didn’t get any sleep. What’s worse is this turns them against the prospect of ever visiting the outdoors again and they leave the gear to rot in their garage instead of donating it to someone more responsible and with a more enthusiastic joie de vivre than them, namely small, poor children.

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      People who don’t ever use their toys prior to executing the camping trip are probably amateurs in more ways than just camping.

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      IKEA instructions are clear, concise, and complete. A better comparison would be Chinese flatpack trash from Wayfair with poorly photocopied diagrams, inscrutable Engrish, and missing steps.

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        I use IKEA directions as a barometer for basic problem solving skills. They’re designed to use universal symbols and no wording so anyone can follow them. If you can’t follow those directions, well… It’s not the instructions that are the problem.

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        Very precise. I do technical drawings for fabricators and Ikea is the sort of gold standard, for exploded assemblies views anyhow. What I was getting at was another layer of insufferability which is the people that complain about instructions which can’t be any more clear, just because they are bellyachers.

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        Based off my limited experience, Wayfair furniture is intentionally designed to be as frustrating as possible to assemble.

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      As a former scout myself, I am perfectly fine with just a sleeping bag on the ground unless it is likely to precipitate in any way. But I could also build a simple shelter using materials from around the area if I really had to.

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      If you can’t figure out how to build a tent (in the dark or not), camping clearly is not for you, or anything that requires the mental capability of an adult for that matter. That shit really is not hard.

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        Seriously. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered anything more complex than: extendo poles make X, tent clips go on X, stake into ground.

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          Most the time, you don’t even need to stake it, just throw in the weight of your gear, especially if you grab a reasonably unexposed site and the weather is optimal. Nowadays, some tents are like two poles that snap together automatically. But if you’re a grump in the dark, it’s a living hell.

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            Dark isn’t too bad if you’re familiar with the tent but I once tried to assemble one in 30-40mph winds and that was a special kind of suffering.

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              That’s a lost cause. You’re trying to wrangle a sail in the wind. And then what? You’re going to sleep in there? Might as well be trying to carry around sheets of plywood.

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                Once I got it hammered in it was a glorious spot of calm, though it took 30 minutes and some help. One or two guys said fuck it and stacked bags to block the wind and just slept in the open behind them. Can’t fault them.

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        Like I said, small, poor children. Being an adult is not required. Just a good, fun attitude, with a willingness to learn.

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      This is exactly the reason I bought a car that can fit an inflatable mattress in the back.
      Because I won’t let details like a lack of preparation stop me! I’ve prepared for that!

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      anyone who never bothered to figure out how any of their gear works. They inevitably show up in the dark and gripe about stuff like it’s in Swedish

      Dang, you have a lot of prejudices against me. And they’re all wrong. What’s fun about knowing how stuff works, finding it out is the adventure!

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        You sound like an exception, then.

        The ones doing this usually are not having fun and quite often ruining the mood for people around them. Bright lights everywhere, shining head lamps in the faces of sites around, loud, grumpy. Often I help them out simply so I can go back to my campfire in peace.

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    The funniest part about this is that the Aztec is usually considered “ugly”.

    But when you compare it to a cybertruck… It looks like a masterpiece.

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    As ugly as the Aztek is, it’s gorgeous next to that stainless steel doorstop.

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    I miss my old Pontiac Aztec, I had this tent and inflatable mattress. This cars truck space was huge!!

    Honestly it was the ugliest car, but also the best car.

    Center consoles air conditioning “nipples” were the best.

    1000024647

  • I am not into camping so I’m not sure, but isn’t the point to get away from density/people/etc? There’s so many cars there. Am I missing something (aside from an appreciation for nature up close)?

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      It mentions a bike ride the next day, so it’s probably just something that’s out in the middle of nowhere and starts pretty early. They’ll often have an area for participants to camp for the night instead of driving out in the early morning.

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      depressingly it’s very very popular (at least here in sweden) to go “”““camping””“” at what is basically trailer parks but for house cars (not literal mobile homes) where you stay a couple of nights at a time at most.

      It just feels like the typical suburban mindset really.

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        In the US those are “RV Parks”. They’re pretty good if you you’re traveling with kids and want to give them the opportunity to meet other kids and play with whatever amenities the park has. Camping in a state or national park is better if you want to more space and a more natural experience. Areas in some nattional forests are available to camp in for free as long as you don’t stay in the same place for more than a week and clean up after yourself.

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        I never understood it. Just go sleep in the RV in your driveway, why drive it a few hours to pay to park in someone else’s multi-car driveway?

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          because it’s next to the ocean, or somesuch

          i have to assume that these places are mostly used by people out on a roadtrip, because the idea of someone who lives nearby taking their housecar there instead of just renting a cabin is very sad…

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            It wouldn’t be worth the effort. You only take it if you intend to spend the night away and if it’s 3+ hours away, you start considering it.

            Also cabins are expensive as well. If you already the house car, it could very well be cheaper than renting the cabin. plus it’s likely already packed with your stuff.

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              i’m not talking large cabins, i’m talking about cabins that have about as much space as a housecar, and those are cheap enough that i’ve stayed in one with my not particularly rich parents.

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        We have this shit in Canada, too. Millions of square kilometers of wilderness, and people camp on top of each other and run their generators for the air conditioning and TV in their $250,000 RV they use 2 weekends out of the year.

        Fucking weirdos.

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      Car camping is its own thing with its own distinct culture from backpackers who hike out into the wilderness to camp.

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      I split it up between car camping, what you see in this post. Which is much different than backpacking or Backcountry camping. Which is packing all your gear in a pack and trekking multiple days or large distances in the middle of nowhere.

      I go backpacking exactly for the reasons you bring up. Sometimes there’s assholes at campsites. Or people with loud music, etc.

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      Festivals are a thing too you know

      Camping is just sleeping in a tent/close to nature.

      Whether there are people around has nothing to do with it.

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      I could get a hella nice 4 season tent for way cheaper than that. 3k for a tent is ridiculous unless you’re going to places that will kill you, or you’re winter camping.

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      Rooftop tents quite comfortably hit that figure - but this is probably outclassed by a couple of pool noodles and a tarp.

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          It is! $100ish for an eno hammock and tarp and you’re hammock camping like an emperor. If you’re not a beast, a canvas tarp and some rope makes a good enough hammock for probably less than $30.

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            good enough isn’t good enough for me though. I got a OneWind hammock that cost me like $60, along with their excellent tarp. i even splurged and upgraded it with some dutchware fittings like the waspz for the tarp and an adjustable ridgeline.

            the adjustable rideline was probably the best thing I ever bought for camping, getting it centered exactly over where I want takes about two seconds and one try.

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              I know exactly how you feel. I have a sleeping pad that weighs more than my backpacking tent because I will gladly carry an extra 5 lbs to sleep in comfort!

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                yeah, i’ll never be an ultralight hiker, I love the comforts too much that I’ll gladly carry a heavier sleep system if it means getting a really good night of sleep

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      For one third of that you can have a huge deluxe family room sized tent that would be 5000 times more durable and easier to put up. This is the Apple product of tents without the quality or ease of use.

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      Indeed it looks really complex, half way through the video I was already lost.

      It’s crazy not just that you have to manually pump it yourself, but why does it even have a “camping program” that you have to engage? It does nothing other than revealing the tray with the tent gear. There’s so many steps involved, why did they think that was the one that required automating?

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      That looks insane. It’s held up by clamping onto the metal flashing of the door, instead of to the frame, the flashing held on by fucking glue. I also love how they show the electric plugs, but you have to use a bicycle pump to inflate.

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      LOL, all that electricity in the “truck” and they give you a manual bike pump to inflate the damn thing‽

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      Doesnt actually look that bad, putting up any tent is usually a fiddly process. But its definitely not intuitive at all. If I were somehow a cyber truck driver and not a dumbass, I would practice setting up and taking down the tent at home first until I got it all figured out. Just as I would with any other new tent.

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        Fiddly tents? There are now actual tents you can pull out of the bag, you throw it in the air and it will land fully set up.

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          Yeah, tents these days are way simpler. And often the more expensive ones you’re paying for some cool engineering that makes them even simpler.

          Especially anything with inflatable ribs! The whole point of the inflatable tents is you inflate them and you’re fucking done.

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    Probably first time doing it and he didn’t even try at home before going camping. When those foldable kayaks started popping out on Amazon, I saw a couple arriving with two at a lake. They spent like 20 minutes trying to assemble them and ended up giving up.