Im old, im past all that other stuff like protesting and joining groups. It never works or helps. I’ve become a bit of an anarchist in my older years as I realize humans just self sabotage and refuse to change unless they’re forced to. I know that a perfect system is impossible and that getting even a good system is too far from where we are. So you go ahead and organize and waste time and one day you’ll be old and go “i should have built gallows when I was young and didn’t have everything to lose”
Or go ahead and organize and do your thing and be peaceful and positive and pretend that’s all it takes, while some of us want to make them see their own blood and have them run for their lives and know that both sides are necessary. We can both be on the same side but I am done talking and sending letters, all we need is a proper leader to give us the go. I may not be a soldier but I’m a good handy man and can build some structures and human sized spits for the billionaire roast, for whenever you guys wanna catch up and come to the conclusions us older leftists have reached
Nonviolent but measures like unions and strikes do very much work.
I just say that annectotaly but there is probably some study about it.
They are probably considered “violent” or maybe only “agggrssive” behaviour by the capitalist class, because it threatens their income/revenue. Thats enough to make them change.
Completly overthrowing a whole economic system might work but is a big ask. Everyday people can do little things. Like unionizing, standing up to the boss or maybe even stand together with the boss and against the next higher-up.
Second, organizing is not the same as yelling at empty government buildings for 3 hours on a weekend at a protest. That’s mobilizing, not organizing.
Third, all of the anarchists in my city are in orgs and groups, fight cops and engage in mutual aid. You aren’t advocating for anarchism, you are advocating for terrorism. And if you talked like this in one of their meetings they would kick your ass out for being a liability. What has terrorism ever accomplished but make the enemy stronger? That’s why the billionaires funds terrorist orgs, because they want forever war. You aren’t an anarchist. Malatesta was an anarchist, and he said to improve yourself and get organized.
I know dozens of old heads who are organized revolutionaries, and fight like hell on multiple fronts. You don’t sound old and wise, you sound like a 17 year old edgelord. Clueless, naive, edgy for the sake of social media interaction .
The idea that getting organized is somehow toothless reformism is just patently, hilariously false. You say you want to spit roast the billionaires, but you are carrying water for them. You are their bitch.
Juice is advocating for taking power from the privileged elite and returning it to the public at large. That won’t be peaceful. Strikes are not peaceful. They will certainly need you at some point.
Im old, im past all that other stuff like protesting and joining groups. It never works or helps. I’ve become a bit of an anarchist in my older years as I realize humans just self sabotage and refuse to change unless they’re forced to. I know that a perfect system is impossible and that getting even a good system is too far from where we are. So you go ahead and organize and waste time and one day you’ll be old and go “i should have built gallows when I was young and didn’t have everything to lose”
Or go ahead and organize and do your thing and be peaceful and positive and pretend that’s all it takes, while some of us want to make them see their own blood and have them run for their lives and know that both sides are necessary. We can both be on the same side but I am done talking and sending letters, all we need is a proper leader to give us the go. I may not be a soldier but I’m a good handy man and can build some structures and human sized spits for the billionaire roast, for whenever you guys wanna catch up and come to the conclusions us older leftists have reached
Nonviolent but measures like unions and strikes do very much work. I just say that annectotaly but there is probably some study about it.
They are probably considered “violent” or maybe only “agggrssive” behaviour by the capitalist class, because it threatens their income/revenue. Thats enough to make them change.
Completly overthrowing a whole economic system might work but is a big ask. Everyday people can do little things. Like unionizing, standing up to the boss or maybe even stand together with the boss and against the next higher-up.
You’re so full of shit.
First, I’m older than you think.
Second, organizing is not the same as yelling at empty government buildings for 3 hours on a weekend at a protest. That’s mobilizing, not organizing.
Third, all of the anarchists in my city are in orgs and groups, fight cops and engage in mutual aid. You aren’t advocating for anarchism, you are advocating for terrorism. And if you talked like this in one of their meetings they would kick your ass out for being a liability. What has terrorism ever accomplished but make the enemy stronger? That’s why the billionaires funds terrorist orgs, because they want forever war. You aren’t an anarchist. Malatesta was an anarchist, and he said to improve yourself and get organized.
I know dozens of old heads who are organized revolutionaries, and fight like hell on multiple fronts. You don’t sound old and wise, you sound like a 17 year old edgelord. Clueless, naive, edgy for the sake of social media interaction .
The idea that getting organized is somehow toothless reformism is just patently, hilariously false. You say you want to spit roast the billionaires, but you are carrying water for them. You are their bitch.
Do better, join an org, fight for the future
So what you’re saying is, ‘don’t organise, sit around and wait for someone else to start the violence’
Super helpful, well done
Juice is advocating for taking power from the privileged elite and returning it to the public at large. That won’t be peaceful. Strikes are not peaceful. They will certainly need you at some point.