You’re either doing the thing right, and expecting the same result, or you’re doing it wrong and then adjusting. Either way, you’re not doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
You are doing the same thing (e.g. practising a specific piece of music on a specific instrument). If you are doing it poorly or on world-class level, it is still the same thing. It’s not identical actions within the task of practising that song, but no matter how good you are, it would be still called the same thing (“practising to play song X on instrument Y”).
edit. You’ve lost your keys. You look in your pants pocket 500 times. Insanity, because you’re doing the same thing and expecting that this time the keys will show up, even though they weren’t there the first 499 times.
You play “O, Canada” on the steel drums 500 times. Sometimes you play it through perfectly and occasionally you make a mistake. You note the mistakes. When you play it right you’re getting the result you expect, and if you make a mistake, you adjust.
I mean how much do you want to generalize? Practicing now means doing the same thing over and over, ignoring the adjustments you make? Ignoring the fact that someone who never practiced vs a 10 year practiced will sound different, but she did the same thing for 10 years, it should sound the same if nothing changed. Then the next 10 years will sound the same since they perfected it. But they will practice. So practice sometimes means you change but sometimes means you don’t? See how things get complicated when they are overgeneralized.
“I’m going to get a drink.” - “I am doing the same.”
Will the second person immitate every movement the first one makes? Will the second person use the exact same words and intonation to order a drink? Will the second person order exactly the same drink?
Or will both people make their way to the bar however they like, and then each use their own words to order any drink they happen to want and “doing the same” just means that they will each end up with a drink in their hands?
No.
You’re either doing the thing right, and expecting the same result, or you’re doing it wrong and then adjusting. Either way, you’re not doing the same thing and expecting a different result.
If you’re expecting the same result (and getting a different result) you’re doing scientific research.
You are doing the same thing (e.g. practising a specific piece of music on a specific instrument). If you are doing it poorly or on world-class level, it is still the same thing. It’s not identical actions within the task of practising that song, but no matter how good you are, it would be still called the same thing (“practising to play song X on instrument Y”).
You reworded my comment.
edit. You’ve lost your keys. You look in your pants pocket 500 times. Insanity, because you’re doing the same thing and expecting that this time the keys will show up, even though they weren’t there the first 499 times.
You play “O, Canada” on the steel drums 500 times. Sometimes you play it through perfectly and occasionally you make a mistake. You note the mistakes. When you play it right you’re getting the result you expect, and if you make a mistake, you adjust.
You claimed the opposite.
If you mean “saying the opposite” by “rewording the comment” then you are right. But to me, saying the opposite is not rewording.
I’ll let whoever reads this decide.
You’re correct, OP is wrong
Thank you
At least you got the fisting enthusiast on your side.
The funny thing is that you’re being so argumentative about it when it’s of absolutely no consequence
https://youtu.be/xe98wnO6VH8
I mean how much do you want to generalize? Practicing now means doing the same thing over and over, ignoring the adjustments you make? Ignoring the fact that someone who never practiced vs a 10 year practiced will sound different, but she did the same thing for 10 years, it should sound the same if nothing changed. Then the next 10 years will sound the same since they perfected it. But they will practice. So practice sometimes means you change but sometimes means you don’t? See how things get complicated when they are overgeneralized.
“I’m going to get a drink.” - “I am doing the same.”
Will the second person immitate every movement the first one makes? Will the second person use the exact same words and intonation to order a drink? Will the second person order exactly the same drink?
Or will both people make their way to the bar however they like, and then each use their own words to order any drink they happen to want and “doing the same” just means that they will each end up with a drink in their hands?