• rafoix@lemmy.zip
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    Who is getting overlooked? Where?

    The right is telling white men that they’re special and “others” are taking their jobs and opportunities. Tale as old as time from conservative politicians.

    President Lyndon B. Johnson once said, "If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.

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      The right is telling white men that they’re special and “others” are taking their jobs and opportunities.

      I think that’s sort of the point. If “everything is the fault of X white men” is something that’s just simply demoralizing. I mean, imagine being constantly blamed for the world’s ills. To the hear that they’re special makes them feel like they’re finally recognized and valued, as much as that feeling may betray them. So essentially, all this talk about them being the cause of everything has made them ripe for the picking by propaganda.

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          Congratulations, you found the problem. It’s easier to say “all white men should die” than “these rich and powerful individuals that made society worse should die”. Guess what happens when you take the easy route all the time.

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            It ain’t just rich and powerful white dudes, though.

            A whole lot of incels, for example, could use a wood chipper.

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        I mean I disagree with you calling it propaganda but yes that’s my point. Why would they stay with a party that demoralizes them.

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      No the right is not telling them they are special they just aren’t vilifying them like the left is.

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        It’s some of column A, some of column B. Although most of the ‘democrats blame white people for everythin’ actually is messaging from the right wing media. Nonetheless, the reason it works is that there’s kernel of truth that the left needs to understand better. Things like ‘there’s no such thing as racism against whites’ and ‘white guys are born on 3rd’ need to be seen as divisive and counter productive.

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          the issue is that tons of people are born on third. it’s about money. not sex or ethnicity, it’s wealth.

          but apparently some working-class guy making 50K is seen as privledged and evil by the liberals, and they wonder why that guy used to vote for them but doesn’t anymore…

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            Of course it’s not really ‘liberals’ saying that. It’s a relatively small but loud pool of ignorant left wing radicals. And it’s amplified by the right wing media who use this to disenfranchise people from the left. And so we end up with authoritarian right wing policies that cripple us way more than anything the left does.

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              dude it’s literally the democrat party’s platform. it’s what kamala ran on and got her ass handed to her. she pandered to every identity group, but men. their entire platform is about minorities and women. men are told to fuck right off. and they wonder why men don’t vote for them?

              tons of videos out there from leftwing and liberal news outlets pointed this out. one went through the democrat parties campaign, ads, websites, interviews, and showed men were never discussed, no were bread and butter economic issues.

              deny it all you want. young men get the message. and they will vote for who supports them.

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          I agree with your statements. I’m sure that is an extreme take of blame everything from center left individuals but the far left certainly do and I’m sure the far right take it we blame everything

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        the right is basically saying ‘work your ass off and you will get results’

        the left is saying ‘work your ass off and expect nothing because you should give it away because you stole it from a woman/minority’

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        Who’s vilifying? Is calling people out on their behavior vilifying?

        It just seems like a lot of weak people just want to get treated special and the second nobody treats them special they claim to be a victim.

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        No the right is not telling them they are special they just aren’t vilifying them like the left is.

        Nazi-Germany which was and is a far-right party definitely claimed they are special. Remember the whole thing about “Aryan” race and how the others are inferior while the Aryan suppose to be superior.

        Likud party from Israel which is far-right are claiming they are the superior too and that others suppose to be inferior.

        AFD from Germany which leans to Nazism also claim they are the superior.

        White supremacy which usually is within the far-right parties very often (if not always) lean to being “superior” over the others.

        Even a quick google search would immediately show this. So where are you getting your information from or is it just your opinion?

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          The right is not claiming white supremacy. They are tired of being told they are inherently racist. They are tired of getting passed up on qualifications for being white vs a different race. They are tired of literally talking about race and possibly having to pay reparations for things they have not done. It’s all right there…

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            No evidence of your claims and thus it is your opinion and your account is 2 days old. Got it. I’ll leave the discussion.

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              No evidence of your claims and thus it is your opinion

              Nerd time, but:

              That’s not how it works. Opinions are subjective by definition. An assertion without evidence is not an “opinion”.

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                The burden of proof is in the accuser not the accused. I don’t have to provide evidence for something as asinine as saying the right is racist and full of white supremacy.

                You also conveniently ignored the evidence I provided and still somehow managed to get say it was an opinion still. Your article clip just proves it was happening?

                Ok man I hope you get out of your echo chamber.

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              California is doing reparations. So tax dollars are being used to pay reparations how is that no evidence?

              DEI hires happened and there was a number that companies needed to hit and other people lost out for the simple reason of race.

              Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard happened so…it’s not “not happening”

              I don’t care how old my account is I’m going to bring another side to the story now since you all have just heard one side for so long here.

              https://calmatters.org/politics/capitol/2024/09/california-reparations-slavery-apology/

              Reparations… A state that never had slaves is paying with taxes from people who never owned slaves…like it’s happening I don’t understand how you say that.

              My people were slaves, where are my reparations?

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                Oh man, I’m exhausted of your comments.

                You mentioned;

                No the right is not telling them they are special they just aren’t vilifying them like the left is.

                The right is not claiming white supremacy. They are tired of being told they are inherently racist. They are tired of getting passed up on qualifications for being white vs a different race. They are tired of literally talking about race and possibly having to pay reparations for things they have not done. It’s all right there…

                None of what you just wrote gives any evidence to your previous claims.

                DEI hires happened and there was a number that companies needed to hit and other people lost out for the simple reason of race.

                you’re talking about DEI as if the right wing party made that happen but it’s the opposite

                The full list of US universities at risk of losing state department funding over DEI support

                This is from the article above;

                More than three dozen universities including Harvard, Yale, Stanford and Duke have their participation in a federal research partnership on the chopping block after the state department proposed to suspend them over their diversity, equity and inclusion hiring practices.

                Keep in mind the article is from November 2025 which means the right-wing party is in charge.

                -text between to avoid mix up-

                I don’t care how old my account is I’m going to bring another side to the story now since you all have just heard one side for so long here.

                I do because usually several old days accounts are usually trolls or… like you; claiming stuff which are not (entirely) true

                Like I mentioned earlier, you never gave any evidence of the claims you made before and try to change subjects (reparations, slavery and DEI). Zero mentions nor evidence about your claim of; “the far right is not racist and not white supremacy”.

                So, yeah. I’m out, I’ll block you so I don’t have to see your baseless comments.

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              California is giving reparations, the us supreme Court ruled against DEI since it WAS happening at Harvard. There’s two examples.

              There are some training at work where we have to acknowledge our bias before even staring a meeting I mean it’s hilarious how you can say that.