So now we can add “directly capturing a sovereign leader” to the list of crap the US has done. So what do you think will actually be “the straw that broke the camels back” for world leaders to actually do something? Think it’ll be significant or something mundane?

              • aesthelete@lemmy.world
                7·
                6 days ago

                That’s part of what Sarah Kendzior has argued for a decade or more. US companies and klepocrats (though I repeat myself) know that the only thing that can match their weight is a powerful federal government. Turning the US into 50 (or more) warring little nations will make it easier to carve up. They have already done this to a large extent with the poorer states under the guise of “state’s rights”. It is also why they run a perennial effort to break up California and it is undoubtedly why the right’s other “big project” is to destabilize the European Union.

          • Limerance@piefed.socialEnglish
            1·
            5 days ago

            For whom? Even those making nuclear weapons, have a high chance of dying in the war, have their possessions destroyed, their investments ruined.

        • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
          193·
          6 days ago

          Not even 1/4th, and that’s counting the stupid, ignorant and disconnected. 77M of 342M voted for him.

          And even among MAGA, money says I could hammer on my fascist neighbor’s door and ask him why the fuck Trump kidnapped the President of Venezuela and he wouldn’t have a clue what I was talking about.

        • Cricket@lemmy.zip@lemmy.zipEnglish
          104·
          6 days ago

          The other half is almost completely oblivious or just doesn’t care what the US does abroad. They only start caring when American soldiers start dying in significant numbers, like in Iraq and Afghanistan. I definitely agree with the other poster who said WW 3 would be a more likely scenario than US revolution because of actions like this.

      • FackCurs@lemmy.world
        2·
        5 days ago

        How is the US population to unite, self organize into militias and erect barricades with the current surveillance state and social media polarization?

        Americans are staying at home doom scrolling and getting angry about their scarecrow neighbors they are made to dislike.

        We know for sure that Americans are not ready to do anything more than voting and praying to answer any form of the social question. Haven’t been for a while. We’re on the slope of them not caring about the political question either. It’s all bread, circuses and surveillance algorithms.

        • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
          3·
          5 days ago

          Don’t forget about the Sword of Damocles that is the lack of social safety nets. Also, political ignorance is a feature, not a bug in our political system. A quarter of the American population would kill the rest because they think the regime is “hurting the right kind of people” and not anybody that they care about. This also includes the minorities who will soon learn that being “one of the good ones” just means that they go to the showers later rather than sooner.

    • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org
      20·
      6 days ago

      Even that’s just a bandaid fix because it should really be all genuine humans against all other humans that play “the game” of taking advantage of people to get ahead.

      • tym@lemmy.world
        118·
        6 days ago

        People want a turn to drive the hate bus. There’s an idea that the US is the nexus of racism and slavery, but someone had to sell the slaves and I’m guessing if you went to a place like Thailand and started calling everyone Vietnamese (or vice versa), there’d be some problems sooner than later.

    • the_q@lemmy.zip
      21·
      6 days ago

      So the destruction of life on this planet? Yeah you’re right.

      • mrdown@lemmy.world
        32·
        6 days ago

        you are as bas as the tankies for defending the lesser of the warmongers