Venezuelans who come to the US tend to be wealthier, in order to be able to get here, and have enough issues with their country in order to leave, issues that they will usually blame on the leadership.
None of this is to say Maduro has majority support, he doesn’t by most accounts, or that they don’t represent a sizable chunk of Venezuelans who don’t like Maduro, but that his support isn’t as non-existent over there as it is here.
It’d be like if Trump took over the US and you only got your views on what Americans think from expat communities in Canada. They would probably cheer his death, even if it was by a foreign empire, but that wouldn’t be representative of average Americans who probably wouldn’t like the foreign intervention, even if they don’t like Trump.
It’s always interesting to watch these things unfold. I feel like unfortunately the right and MAGA always seem more informed about this stuff. The left leaning spaces had a weird lag where they didn’t realize Venezuelans didn’t like Maduro. The left seems like it just reacts whereas the right are proactive lately
You gotta be on something if your think MAGA are ‘nore informed’
I don’t know. It depends on how you classify informed. I’d bet they, on average, spend more time glued to a “news” source, so they’re being informed, 24/7, just not with truth.
Exactly this.
In my experience the left are resting on they laurels. But in my day to day, people on the right are just now obsessive with current events. People i met on the left are just way more disengaged. They’ll react to things but they’re not doing deep dives like they did in the past. People who want to argue against this should go to any public site where those lines are clear and check out the left leaning conversations vs the right. It’s almost always the right leaning places have much more details and points and opinions whereas the left leaning places are all just insults and saying how upset a commenter.
The left is exhausted. Democratic leadership is uninterested in fighting, and the electorate is angry, but has been angry for so long they’re disconnecting to stay sane.
I don’t think MAGA is more informed on this, they just have a different myopic view. They’re only listening to the Venezuelan diaspora in the US who are almost entirely happy about Maduros ousting.
The reality is Maduro is a controversial figure in Venezuela, just like trump is here. A majority don’t like him, a smaller percentage hate him and some people like him. Ignoring any of these factions and flattening all Venezuelans down to one opinion is why we got here. Trump was buying everything the diaspora was telling him about how everyone over there hates Maduro and we just need to take him out and his whole regime will fall down like a house of cards. Maduros regime wasn’t a house of cards like they were told though and it does have some base that will require a lot more than I think trump is willing to do to topple it.
Just an example of what I mean. This is now already at disseminated in multiple right leaning channels and news sources. How many reading this even had this on their radar. Sure there’s misinformation. But also think what information is here and what needs to be researched. Is this mentioned anywhere here in lemmy? Because on the right this is already locked in.
This is the cost of not wrestling with pigs. If the left wants to get anything back they need to stay ahead of this stuff instead of reacting.