A: Learning about socialism is not radicalizing.
B: Americans have been propagandized to death, poisioning their minds to believe socialism is abject poverty for everyone but the poor lazy useless eaters. They are on average just stupid enough to believe it without question.
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If so, then what’s radicalizing like?
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To be honest, I think the best time the US should’ve become a socialist country would be during the Great Depression - the economy was going down the toilet and people are waiting to get by, but it’s gonna require word-of-mouth, an aversion of the Red Scares and such. The alternate history story “Reds! A Revolutionary Timeline” (wiki here) would probably give you an idea on what would that be like.
- The dictionary is your friend.
- The best time was in the past. The next best time is tomorrow after a good night’s sleep, a nice hot shower and a healthy breakfast.
Word of mouth can’t compete with fascist corporate media broadcasting poison 24/7 to idiots. Radio, TV, “news”, web content. It’s highly orchestrated scientifically optimized propaganda.
All broadcasting monopolies should be seized by the workers, split into different companies and then collectivized by the workers. Seriously!
EDIT: Oh, and this is my 222nd comment from DBZer0
Please explain (for number two)
Maybe “reciprocalism”, perhaps?
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Most citizens of the US are not educated enough to understand what socialism is. They believe in capitalism.
So how do you think we should radicalize them to socialism? We can do a class consciousness platform. It worked for Zohran in New York.
Give it a catchy new name. Never mention the words socialism, communism, or capitalism. Just say what the movement stands for and see if people agree once the bias is removed.
Maybe “economic populism” or “economic-conscious”, perhaps?
Maybe they can call it ‘Sharing is caring’?
Nah, they’ll see right through that, maybe something more cynical like “Other people won’t get less screwed than you.”
I’ve read something of that sort happening, and people love the ideas but once they put 2+2 together they retract and start to hiss at it because the media/leader taught them to react that way to any ideology that is a threat to them.
That’s a great start, and I wouldn’t have seen it happen anywhere else in the US. But socialism is week because it doesn’t have the resources like what capitalism has exploited and has turned into fascism, scaring everyone that socialism is bad for their way of life, which if you ask any citizen would tell you that it stinks. I’m still skeptical of Mamdani, because everyone is susceptible to corruption and/or intimidation.
What about market socialism? A market economy should be necessary in the transitional stage between capitalism and communism (or a socialist-democratic dictatorship of the proletariat, if you prefer).
I’ll tell you my opinion on this, any ideology (left, center, or right) or philosophy can sound so good and appetizing on paper, but when it comes to people managing it, the chances of corruption and decay are always present and its fate is doomed from the start, even if it goes through a successful phase. Maybe small scale communal markets can work but it’s still going to be living under capitalism, which is expensive. Capitalism has more power because it has all the money and the seductions, and like the right said, empathy is weekness, which translates to we don’t care about the unfortunate who are suffering. Capitalism has caused so much damage that we need a reset button like human extinction.
Are you a social democrat?
I’m a nihilist mostly.
Socialism is dead. You need to define new ways and new words for it, if you want to make things better in today’s world.
But if you want to restrict it all to just one province of one country, and that is even in the politically uneducated Usa, then you can as well leave away the theory. Just tell them to vote left.
Then how are you gonna tell Trump voters to vote left? What did Zohran do that got him the keys to his office as Mayor of New York City?
I am not from there. I cannot tell you any “how” answers.
