This sounds like a stupid question, but I’m being genuine.
He is telling people to eat more meat, which sounds absolutely insane to me.
What qualifies him to give health advice ? Why are americans trusting him ?
No one is taking his advice.
There are SEEMINGLY UNLIMITED reasons to discredit this person and one of them is not ‘addict in recovery’.
He’s not trusted by most Americans.
Because they are morons.
The politically correct term is ‘people of the land’
Former?
Wtf is wrong with being a former heroin addict? I know plenty of drug users and former drug users who aren’t fascist shitstains and are actually pleasant people. Also like, you’re going after him for being a former addict? God forbid someone be in a bad place in life and luckily manage to recover from it… Addiction, a health condition, just morally scars you for life then? Would you say that about someone who recovered from cancer? Fuck off.
Good take.
yeah the question is not phrased properly
it should be “why are the people who give former drug addicts a bunch of shit when it’s convenient to them now paying attention to a former addict”
It’s about the hypocrisy, not the person’s past
Americans are not, but Republicants are.
Because most Americans are drug-addicts themselves.
A third of the US are beyond help, beyond fucking stupid. Another third can’t be arsed to do anything, they’re so apathetic. One will follow without question, the other might go either way.
Also Shitler put RFK in place, so we’re all forced to hear his moronic opinions…
Apathy comes from depression and grasping at things that don’t make sense can be read as anxiety. America failed to develop an educational system and now has no clue how to cope with stresses being applied to it.
It didn’t fail its been slowly dismantled for years… they want people to be dumb so they can control them…
This is honestly a disgusting take because it shows how biased you are against addicts. Not a stupid question. Just a nasty one. Your 2nd and 3rd are good questions though. I don’t think there’s jack shit qualifying him to give health advice in reality. He’s a crackpot supplement pusher. Which I feel kinda answers your 3rd; americans have a long history of being stupid and blindly trusting whatever the pill-pusher says, because they hear what they want to hear. Unfortunately.
I hate RFK and all the damage he’s done/is doing to our country’s general state of health. His history of addiction is literally last on the list of reasons not to trust him. In my view, a history of addiction (now being in recovery) usually gives you a pretty sane view of health, since it brings you so close to death. The overwhelming majority of recovering addicts that I know lead healthier lifestyles than non-addicts. Oftentimes when people see with clarity how much damage they’ve done to themselves, they desperately want to treat their body better.
This was exactly my first thought. He should be disqualified for many reasons, but that ain’t one of them. Thinking that way is why we have him.
As much as I wish this dude would immediately suffer cardiac arrest from a clogged artery, him being a former addict has nothing to do with anything, and in itself doesn’t devalue anything he says. That kind of thinking is pretty problematic, and you need to have a real hard think about the way you obviously look down on people who are recovering from addiction, cause honestly you’re being pretty shitty right now.
Mmmm, I think there’s still a point to the question. Being an addict is not a moral failing; it doesn’t make you less of a person. But the vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.
t’s like how people ask Christians why they vote for someone who’s been married x times. Personally idgaf how many times Trump has been married, I care about how many women and children he has assaulted. I don’t think divorce is a moral failing; hell, I don’t believe in the institution of marriage by the state. But, the very same people who hold him up also claim to believe that it should make him unworthy.
vast majority of people who believe in RFK also believe being an addict is reprehensible.
While true, they’re also the segment of the population most impacted by the opioid epidemic.
There is no logistical consistency in the conservative mind, we have to stop trying to make square pegs fit into something that doesn’t even have holes. These folks go with how they feel, and they adore having a health and human services leader who gives them validation for believing in magic water, essential oil and avoidance of scarrrrryyyy needles and vaccines. That’s ALL they care about, nothing in his background would change that. NOTHING.
He spent his entire life literally destroying his mind. Is he bad because he is an addict? Perhaps not, but he has significant brain damaged because of the drugs.
I am all for recovery but the truth is he will never have the mental faculties to be a leader because of his life choices. He will never be able to make a full recovery. That is not discrimination, that is just reality.
No. This logic is fatalist bullshit.
Drugs have consequences whether you accept it or not.
They do, i know. Theyre not certain. The consequences depend on lots of factors. To disqualify someone because they used drugs without looking more into how it affected that specific person is fatalist bullshit.
Oh yeah, I totally get that. It is obvious that RFK has brain damage which affects his ability to think clearly. This is specific to him doing hard drugs for decades.
Also, just because you wouldn’t make a good leader because of damage you did to your mind does not change that you should be treated with dignity and care.
When oxygen to the brain is habitually suppressed, brain damage can occur. That’s not fatalist, it’s just reality.
That doesn’t imply addiction is a moral failing. It’s a disease, and diseases can have permanent effects.
I agree brain damage CAN occur. Thats not the same statement i was criticizing.
You called it fatalistic bullshit to say RFK jr. has permanent brain damage…
No no. I was calling the logic bullshit. The reasoning was bad, not the conclusion. Learn to interpret text.
I do not need to take a hard look at this to clearly see that this is a person who does not approach life with the scientific method in mind.
Being a drug addict does not accidentally happen. It suggests a flawed decision making process which should make someone ineligible to be making decisions which affect millions of people.
I don’t look down on someone for being a heroin user, but I do trust their decision making process less than I would trust someone who did not make that decision.
You can’t get a security clearance with a history of narcotics addiction. Nor can you join the military. Because the addiction compromises you and your judgement.
There is no such thing as a ‘former addict’.
Because the addiction compromises you and your judgement.
so does having questioned the US or Israeli governments, or participated in any protests or activism. as an example, yours was a pretty bad one.
If this was true then hating Israel would have been an epidemic during the Vietnam era.
Uh huh. Apply for a security clearance sometime and see how far they sniff up your ass before you’re granted access to that scif you need to do your job.
Being a heroin addict does not make you a bad person anymore than having diabetes. Fuck off with that moralistic shit.
The guy is a scourge of humanity because of the choices he made and beliefs he holds. Don’t make it look like heroin is the cause.
No on said heroin makes you a bad person, it sure as hell doesn’t give you credit to give health advice.
Would you take driving lessons from someone who’s never driven a car? Or has crashed every car they’ve owned?
Same idea, who the fuck is this McDonald’s eating fuck to give advice on health?
Not to mention all the dumbass comments he’s made about nearly eradicated diseases like measles, he’s a trumper, so he supports child rape and murdering of civilians who dont lick the boots and bow down to tangerine shitler.
The clickbait title implies the problem is his drug use and not, you know, any of his actual character flaws.
Fuck RFK but I will never hold being a former heroin addict against him.
Yea it’s not the addiction or even the brainworms that disqualify him, it’s simply his stupidity.
Stupid people are redeemable as well. But this asshole has seen the science, ignores it, and continues to spread his lies that will harm and/or kill people for political reasons…
Yea I guess you can fix stupid, but you can’t fix willful ignorance when presented with facts and evidence. I have long thought it made no sense that all these govt positions don’t require any expertise in the area they legislate.
But you must consider the possibility that heroin and brain worms damaged his brain, contributing to the stupidity, and his own stupid choices led to those circumstances that possibly increased his stupidity. Thus he remains open to criticize on all those topics.
I don’t think heroin addiction necessarily damages your brain, and if you make it out the other side you will have learned quite the lesson (presumably)
Anything that causes respiratory depression lowers available oxygen to the brain and can cause damage over time.
I understand the sentiment of destigmatizing addiction, but let’s not lie and say it can’t cause permanent damage. It’s a disease, right? And diseases can have aftermath.
This is true, but I didn’t suggest that it can’t cause brain damage, just that it doesn’t necessarily have to follow. People with sleep apnea or who live at high altitudes don’t all have brain damage either.
If this was true those on chronic opiate medications would be given supplemental oxygen. There would also be studies demonstrating the neurodegenerative effects of opiates.
Opiates are rather safe outside of overdose and sequelae of unsafe injection / smoking. They are incredibly benign in the sense you could take 20-40-80-160mg OxyContin your whole life and not have any issues beyond constipation.
Managed prescriptions are taken in safe doses. There’s no way to guarantee someone addicted to illicit opiates will stay below the threshold of dangerous consumption.
Even alcohol in large enough quantities kills brain cells. Stop pretending addiction is harmless, because it’s not helping addicts the way you seem to think it is.
I never said addiction was harmless. However, your claim that opiate addiction causes neurological issues due to oxygen deprivation outside of an acute overdose is unfounded. If this was the case, chronic opiate users (in the strictly clinical sense) would be given supplemental oxygen.
Listen, I’d hire a former heroin addict for a job no problem, but I don’t think I would date one.
Rfkjr is unqualified for his position.
Being a former heroin addict doesn’t make someone a bad source of information, especially if they’ve turned their lives around.
But I agree otherwise
Having a worm drive your thoughts does tho…
Yeah, “from a guy with a dead worm in his brain” would make for a better question.
It isn’t exactly a credential.
Right, but you wouldn’t put a former heroin addict in this position. The optics alone are sure to cause trust issues and this guy is nowhere close to being qualified to run HHS.
I feel like goddamn brain worm should be a hard disqualify for jobs that impact health.
Why would a previous tape worm infection disqualify you?
Because he specifically argued in his divorce that he suffers cognitive impairment and therefore he projects less future earnings. So he himself basically argued he is not smart enough to earn even as much as the average guy.
So in his own words, he has a cognitive impairment that will not go away. Now either you trust his advice (which assumes it’s good advice, and kinda goes against him saying under oath he will have cognitive impairment) or you think he was saying the truth under oath and now his advice is not worth too much.
Basically you have to decide which version of his you wanna trust. And if I have to decide between “he is dumb” or “he lied under oath”, I know one thing for sure - and that is to be very skeptical of anything he says.
I think they’re getting at that there is suspicion he caused it himself by doing things like drinking raw milk.
I don’t think you can get it from dairy products but undercooked meat for sure
It was more the first thing that came to mind from his grab bag of questionable health ideas.
For the dairy though, I was thinking more a secondary body infecting the milk like rat droppings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angiostrongylus_cantonensis (One of the reasons why snails/slugs are so dangerous if ingested unprepared)
That parasite doesn’t make brain cysts, Taenia solium does. Eosinophilic meningitis is different from neurocysticercosis, which is what he’s suspected of having.
Bro ate undercooked pork.
Fuck rfk, but him being a former heroin addict is probably his least worst trait.
I’m sure he was just as crazy before and during as he is after.
