Perhaps by gay women? Nah couldn’t be…

By straight men tho…

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    I bet gay men are much more eager than straight women on average, but straight women outnumber gay men by like 20:1.

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      The only straight women I’ve ever seen express an honest, self-derived interested in penises broadly have been “OMG I love penises so much and eat like, 30 dicks before lunch” marketed personas on reddit and the like who have Onlyfans links in their bios. These are the commercial entities that are skewing people’s ideas how the genders feel about the issue.

      Most straight female partners who perform the act regularly are mostly doing it for the emotional/intimacy connection, like watching their partner or doing it because they know their partner likes it but otherwise would be pretty ambivalent at best.

      This is all fine, but men broadly have a very hard time reconciling and processing that their female partners aren’t as into the visceral, genital-focused attractions as they are, and that’s why this is always such a huge issue. Nobody wants to patronized or placated, they want to feel actually desired and men and women, for whatever reason, be it biological or social or whatever else, have different kinds of attractions.

      In the old days we made this work by talking to each other and adapting to each other, nowadays people read all the discourse online even before meeting someone to be partner with and get too insecure or hyper-fixated on these differences before having a chance to learn how relationships even work. We were not really meant to read the insecurities and honest truths from so many millions of people we don’t know, it fucks with our psyche in ways we will be studying for centuries.

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          Canadian Health Survey self-reported gay as 1% in 2003 to 1.7% in 2014. Bisexuality was 0.7% in 2003 and had doubled by 2014.

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            1. If you believe that being gay is largely genetic
            2. do you believe that some countries have just more gay genes?
            3. if not you can assume that the highest gay ratio in countries is more representative than the lower ones of specific countries.
            4. If you look at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation there are some countries with >=7%

            I think the largest reason for lower reports is social pressure and the flexibility applied when being unhappy with your own orientation due to that pressure “I am not gay. I just like to experiment!” I believe that this partly causes the relatively large amount of “not completely straight” people in more precise studies.

            Anyway, this is a lot of guess work. Mainly I had this presumption, because a gay man I know stated “I can ask 10 men on the street and one will join me” and given that it sounded like he tried it a few times, I do believe him. So my starting position is highly anecdotal and not very scientific.

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              I’d assume that there’s a lot of theoretically homosexual men who are in denial or very deeply closeted. I doubt these men have a large amount of man-on-man sex.

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              It’s an anonymous mailing survey, or at least it was. It’s hard to believe there’s any social stigma affecting it, and Canada isn’t known for having much pressure on gay people these days, at least in the more secular groups.

              Idk, its anecdotal but I was in an auditorium in the local university area last night for a Valentine’s day improv performance and I was looking around at the couples, and it was at least 95% man-woman. If there was any place I’d expect to see gay couples, that was it, but I’m not seeing what the alt-right twats are crying about.

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        Depends on which statistik you look at and for which countries. To arrive at 20:1, I calculated with 5% of people being “mostly homosexual”, which means that about 2.5% of the population is “mostly homosexual” men and about 45% is “mostly heterosexual” women. Admittedly, this is likely on the high side for homosexuality, but there is a lot of variation in statistics on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_sexual_orientation.

        Either way, I picked a high number für homosexuality because even if we assume that there are a lot of gay men, the ratio is still extremely high - it’s rather unlikely that the average gay man sucks dick 20 times more often than the average straight women.

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      I know the title explicitly says gay men, but then talks about Gay women and straight men as if the two sexualities are all that exist.

      I’m sure the number, if you include bi, bi curious, pan etc. Is much higher than 5%.

      I’m a mostly straight man (let’s say 2/3rds) and I’ve given more blowies than an ex female I was with for over a decade.