Saw an old lady getting out of a BMW X7 M60i (the high performance version). I asked her what made her choose the M60i and she just said “I dunno, the salesman said it was the best one they had”.
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That’s actually why the used market for BMWs is such trash. If you want a manual transmission good luck finding one because the original buyers are the people OP is talking about. People who actually know which cars are good tend to be poor people lol
Eh, downvote me, but manuals are overrated. Humans just can’t react as quickly anymore, especially with the power output now.
Now give me a gently used B58 or N63TU3 engine and I’ll be quite happy. Luckily these people that just “buy the best” don’t know what they have and just putt around town for a couple years.
It’s not always about reaction speed or power. Manuals are just more fun.
Sorry but what do you mean you have to react quickly when manuals are overrated? What should you be able to do so fast in manual?
Agreed. Manual shifting is superior because you understand what you’re going to do and can plan the shift vs acceleration. An automatic can only respond to your attempts to accelerate. An automatic will prevent moments where you shift too early and lose accelerative ability, but driven accurately, a manual will be more effective. The fun mentioned in other comments is the process of mastering this balance. An automatic will (should) never approach the boundary of what the engine/transmission is capable of. With a manual, your destiny is in your hands.
Yeah they do 5 mile journeys which turns the oil into fuel, then they follow the BMW service interval of 20k which is about 4x too long for a performance engine.
Lots of ‘gentle use’ means the bottom end spent it’s whole life at minimum oil pressure, oil which was probably trash most the time.
It’s not the clueless pensioners fault, but man the industry sucks now
Yeah you need to change the oil in these cars every 5k. They are high performance turbo engines. I would never buy a BMW that just was returned from lease. Walking disaster
You also need to wind the engine out from time to time or carbon buildup. Rich people in these cars literally never floor it from what I see
You talking about the old Italian tune-up? I’m all about it. I drive a WRX, and the majority of my trips are with my kids to and from where we walk to school. Tiny trips. So I feel inclined to really get on her when I have my occasional trips elsewhere. It’d be wrong not to.
It’s also a manual, and I know it wasn’t you (or maybe it was), but I don’t drive manual because it’s the best performance option. I know that flappy paddle gearbox, to steal a line from Clarkson, is a faster, more accurate shift than I ever could do, but it’s just fun driving stick. I just feel more connected to the road driving stick.
I got this car new in October '24, and it’s my goal to keep it forever, because I’m not sure how long for the world stick is in general. Or ICE engines. And that’s okay, it’ll be a relic.
When I can’t buy a manual anymore I’ll just kill myself. Lol. They are just so immensely satisfying to operate.
Worse than automatics in 2026 though in every way except fun.
B58 will probably be my next car. My n55 has almost 200k on it and the problems are getting kind of frequent.
The purpose of Youth is for it to be wasted.
$116,550 list.
I was never wealthy enough to make the most of my youth. Consequently, I couldn’t leverage my youth to age happily.
When I was 38 I finally able to get that sports car I always wanted and my twit of a neighbor who had 6 kids and pregnant with #7 condescendingly said that it was my mid life crises car.
My response was there is no mid life crises there was always a lack of money crises…
Just know, on that day, that neighbour wanted nothing more than to trade spots with you for a week.
Trade for his wife?
I assumed the mom was speaking.
Two sides of the same coin.
When I was in my 20s I had all the energy and creativity, but couldn’t afford the means to put them to good use.Now in my 40s I have the necessary disposable income, but my energy has been zapped by trying to get on top of this adulting business. I still get a creative burst, but I have to manage my projects so that I can stick to something I’m actually able to complete.
As someone who’s in that first bit and can feel how I’m having to supress those things due to the need to adult, it is so sad
I often see people driving fast cars like Teslas as if gravity will instantly throw them off the road if they turn the car at faster speeds than 10 mph. They brake like 20 seconds before they are gonna turn, then go slowly slowly towards the street they want to turn in to, then they almost stop and turn the steering wheel.
Not frustrating at all to be behind one of those…
I think some people dont know how gravity works when they are in a car, so they act like they are controlling an oil tanker, just in case.
Let people drive safely.
Slowing unnecessarily at every then is very dangerous. There is a difference between being cautious and being an obstruction on the road.
They dont drive safely for others. If I walk in front of you very slowly and you cant pass, you would be annoyed. Its the same in traffic.
As a cyclist I honestly applaud this turning behavior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
One thing to keep in mind is a feature of EVs is automatic braking when you take your foot off the gas. Mine has different settings on how hard you want it to brake. I think the idea is that it’s safer for something like an accident (which it is) and you gain some energy back into your battery.
I think that might be what you’re experiencing here.
No, its just people being afraid to drive at the speed limit and who think they need to break 20 seconds before they turn. Its because they have no feeling for their car so they are afraid.
Yeah that just seems incorrect — have you driven a Tesla? Because they absolutely have the feature I’m talking about.
Yeah I know they do, but if the driver doesnt take their foot off the gas pedal, it doesnt break.
Many electric cars, maybe all, have the same feature.
Its the driver taking the foot off the pedal too early that makes the car break too early.
You’re essentially asking them to accelerate towards a stop instead of temporarily incoveniencing you.
Pro tip: 3 seconds in between you and the car in front of you. That way this won’t ever inconvenience you again.
idk how you can be upset about people driving safely
Safe driving is conscious, fluid driving. If safe driving were just slow driving, we’d best all be going 30km/h everywhere.
This is not safe driving.
explain how people artificially driving faster than they’re comfortable with is safer
It upsets people and is actually illegal to drive too slow. Makes other people angry, they take risks to overtake you, and could cause accidents.
This is in our official driving school books even.
If you are not comfortable driving at speed limit, you need to learn that. Its part of being a good driver. Of course depending on weather.
You are not supposed to drive the speed limit, you can be close but they add the word “limit” to imply that you shouldn’t exceed it.
That being said, some roads do have a minimum speed as well (the section of the interstate I drive everyday has a minimum speed of 40MPH), but the vast majority of roads, at least in the US, only have a maximum speed listed. Weather definitely affects that though as a big ass dually will be less likely to hydroplane than a little Miata.
Impeding the flow of traffic (like driving too slow) is a finable offence in big parts of the first world countries. You are supposed to drive near the speed limit if the road and weather conditions allow for it. People that are to scared to do that on an open road should think about taking a few more driving lessons (and are in my opinion usually unfit to sit behind the wheel)
So hmm… The road through the neighborhood in front of my house is 25MPH, how fast can you peddle? The road connecting to it is 35MPH. I don’t know a single person that can peddle that fast yet they are legally able to use these streets provided they are wearing a helmet, remain within the lane going their direction of travel, and don’t use assistive technology that exceeds 25MPH.
I’ll personally just not excees the speed limit (maybe it’s age starting to play a role) and risk the ticket. People get pissed all the time because they would prefer to go faster than 25 or 35 on these roads, but the limit is the limit to me (until they change the wording).
If your speed differs drastically from the traffic flow, you’re a hazard. If you’re unable to adjust your speed to your surroundings, you shouldn’t be driving.
some people dont know how gravity works
Are you sure that you’re not one of them?
I know its not the right term for this, but… Yeah. :)
Could have fooled me: I’m old and have no money
Why couldn’t I have three money and no kids?
Having disposable income these days comes from having the same luck that made boomers millionaires. Not to say it doesn’t involve hard work, but lots of people work hard. The people who get actual compensation for it are either born into it or get very lucky.
It’s not what you know but who you…
Better to have spent your money in your youth when you enjoyed it properly.
I didn’t have money then either.
It’s all relative - if you didn’t have enough money then you would have starved or died of exposure, so good thing you spent it on food and shelter instead of dying? (Or, you spent all your free time growing food and making your own clothing and shelter - how did you pay the taxes on the land then?)
The logical correlation would be money is wasted on the rich. Youth --> young : Money --> rich
IOW the idea is about not appreciating what you have (“you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone”). So young people not appreciating the youth they have is in the same vein as rich people not appreciating the money they have.
When I was young, I had energy but no money. When I’m older, I’ll have money but no energy. It’s only now in my 30s and 40s that I have… neither. 😔
Whoever finds a way to convert money into youth is on a winner.
I don’t know about that, but there are several people swilding rich people on that front. I hope Musk’s chest pops from all the HGH he’s taking.
As opposed to the youth into money….
Labour turns youth into money. The young die in factories so the old can live in luxury
Just purchase some blood plasma from young people and inject it.
I’m old. What’s money?
I think it’s this pink paper that people use in Canada. Most people never see it. Mostly because Canada is cold.
Money is wasted on the rich and their lavish culture. Don’t be ageist about it.
Neither is a waste, but neither is fair.
The young are paid with youth, while the elderly are paid with currency.
The elderly who are lucky enough to have money they can spend spend an awful lot of it telling youngsters what to do.
