Its working guys. The decentralization is working. I for one think its amazing that we’ve created these little social medias to fight like Pokémon and nobody can stop us.
It is in-fact working. No one is banned by their own instance for aligning with their opinion. If they are banned by a different instance, they can create their own community in their instance. Block them, block their instance, do fuck all to never hear from them again.
I know there are a lots of shills from mothership throwing shade on decentralization but this is what actual “freedom” on the internet is like that hasn’t been around since forums disappeared.
I actually don’t think the Lemmy Platform decentralization is working at all. This is evidenced by the fact that several times the tankie lemmy devs have pushed a top of the site banner to beg for donations to help run Lemmy ml, and most instance owners admit they’re not equipped to audit the code and remove it.
I think Piefed is a superior solution for that reason.
Not every person can handle the responsibility of the power to push any content to anyone and everyone, thus mods were born out of necessity. Without them the communities you like would be spammed with at best AI scams begging for money and at worst CSAM so as to make it unusable by the people who disagree with your community.
However, you’re 100% able to buy your own hardware, launch your own instance, and start your own community, just as everyone else is.
No. Mods were born out of corporate and political interest to control mass media. Nothing more. Mods are there to convert digital spaces to align with their interest. They’re there to prevent people from actually forming another Egyptian spring, wiki leaks, anonymous or anything that could disrupt the current power structure.
Few years ago it was an issue since someone spammed CSAM that it got federated to multiple servers and it took concentrated effort from community mods and instance admins to solve the issue.
Automation plus mods are there to handle CSAM. Mods should be a nuclear option. But again give communities more control. Mods are not uphold an ever growing list of vague rules like cops who arrest and beat citizens for “resisting arrest”. It’s a system of abuse.
But ask yourself who has massive amounts of CSAM to randomly post across the internet to force an expansion of measure and control. Sounds a lot like something we know governments do.
For decade I’ve heard this defense that if mods weren’t there, we’d have CSAM in every corner of the internet. Much like if we didn’t have American military invading rural villages and dropping bombs on schools then we wouldn’t have any freedoms.
Look at reddit. We only found out a little bit of who mods were. Some were powerful people. Some were just marketing teams. It’s control. If you’re all leftist and you support mods you’re a class traitor.
I very much want to see how this “community run” forum would operate. Does everyone have the ability to remove comments or other users? Would it be up to the votes to decide what stays or not? What then when someone posts something actually offensive? It just stays there until everyone can decide what to do with it? Like, please explain it to me.
The admins should have a choice in the banner, but each Lemmy instance is also using that software for free and should, in the spirit of Floss, give back. Thats really all I’ll say about that because I’m not an admin nor am I a dev for either software.
Tankies deserve $0. Tankies should have to pay the rest of us reparations for all the propaganda they try to shove down our throats.
Tankies would convince you and everyone in the west to murder our entire families in the night if they could. They are the enemy, they hate all that is good and just in the world, all they know is war and submission.
…they are the enemy, they hate all that is good and just in the world, all they know is war and submission
I don’t think even Trump supporters are that horrible people. At worst, tankies are falling for Russian/Chinese/etc… propaganda, possibly due to overcorrecting from American propaganda. None of us are immune to propaganda.
Tankies are just MAGA after their regime takes root. What the CCP does to Uighurs and Tibetans is what Trump WISHES he could do. China and Russia are constantly trying to expand borders. They’re a threat to continued life on this earth, they hate us, and they’re spending massive amounts of money to spread propaganda and do us as much harm as possible.
If you want evidence of that, just look at how TikTok, a Beijing run military psyop, did everything in its power to reelect Trump in 2024 by voluntarily turning off services and blaming the Biden admin, then turning back on to thank him after the election. Trump was the Russian and Chinese backed candidate.
I think we might be having a misunderstanding. I thought of “tankies” as denizens of lemmy.ml and similar places, likely not even being Russian or Chinese themselves or living there.
I’m pretty sure you are right about Chinese and Russian imperialism. However, the average person anywhere is not a knowing supporter of imperialism themselves… that’s where propaganda comes into play.
I chill with the bears all day and nobody says that. You seem to be extremely reactionary to that ideology and I think you should step back and look at how polarized you are. It can’t be a healthy mindset. I mean you immediately responded like this and downvoted me for saying something pretty benign from a software development angle.
I’ve never apologized for Netanyahu, I’ve been insulting that pos for like 2 decades.
It must be a grave insult how you carry water for his pets biden and harris.
Also, this you?
It is. Centrists will be like “it’s not voting for genocide to vote for harm reduction!” and then turn around and be like “YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE BECAUSE YOU DID WHAT I SAID TO DO!”
Its working guys. The decentralization is working. I for one think its amazing that we’ve created these little social medias to fight like Pokémon and nobody can stop us.
It is in-fact working. No one is banned by their own instance for aligning with their opinion. If they are banned by a different instance, they can create their own community in their instance. Block them, block their instance, do fuck all to never hear from them again.
I know there are a lots of shills from mothership throwing shade on decentralization but this is what actual “freedom” on the internet is like that hasn’t been around since forums disappeared.
If this ain’t for you. GTFO.
A wild lemmygrad appears.
Which instance do you choose as counter?
Uses ban move, protects from criticism.
I’ll trade you a shiny piefed.zip and one of my quokku’s for it. Tryna complete my lemmydex.
hahaha
I actually don’t think the Lemmy Platform decentralization is working at all. This is evidenced by the fact that several times the tankie lemmy devs have pushed a top of the site banner to beg for donations to help run Lemmy ml, and most instance owners admit they’re not equipped to audit the code and remove it.
I think Piefed is a superior solution for that reason.
Piefed has its share of problems, I wouldn’t argue they’re better. Or at least not better enough to warrant a migration
Need to nuke mods all over. Go to 100% community ownership. Why the fuck any lefty accepts mods is beyond me.
Not every person can handle the responsibility of the power to push any content to anyone and everyone, thus mods were born out of necessity. Without them the communities you like would be spammed with at best AI scams begging for money and at worst CSAM so as to make it unusable by the people who disagree with your community.
However, you’re 100% able to buy your own hardware, launch your own instance, and start your own community, just as everyone else is.
No. Mods were born out of corporate and political interest to control mass media. Nothing more. Mods are there to convert digital spaces to align with their interest. They’re there to prevent people from actually forming another Egyptian spring, wiki leaks, anonymous or anything that could disrupt the current power structure.
How would you handle the CSAM issue though?
Few years ago it was an issue since someone spammed CSAM that it got federated to multiple servers and it took concentrated effort from community mods and instance admins to solve the issue.
Automation plus mods are there to handle CSAM. Mods should be a nuclear option. But again give communities more control. Mods are not uphold an ever growing list of vague rules like cops who arrest and beat citizens for “resisting arrest”. It’s a system of abuse.
But ask yourself who has massive amounts of CSAM to randomly post across the internet to force an expansion of measure and control. Sounds a lot like something we know governments do.
For decade I’ve heard this defense that if mods weren’t there, we’d have CSAM in every corner of the internet. Much like if we didn’t have American military invading rural villages and dropping bombs on schools then we wouldn’t have any freedoms.
Look at reddit. We only found out a little bit of who mods were. Some were powerful people. Some were just marketing teams. It’s control. If you’re all leftist and you support mods you’re a class traitor.
I very much want to see how this “community run” forum would operate. Does everyone have the ability to remove comments or other users? Would it be up to the votes to decide what stays or not? What then when someone posts something actually offensive? It just stays there until everyone can decide what to do with it? Like, please explain it to me.
The admins should have a choice in the banner, but each Lemmy instance is also using that software for free and should, in the spirit of Floss, give back. Thats really all I’ll say about that because I’m not an admin nor am I a dev for either software.
Nah, fuck Tankies.
Tankies deserve $0. Tankies should have to pay the rest of us reparations for all the propaganda they try to shove down our throats.
Tankies would convince you and everyone in the west to murder our entire families in the night if they could. They are the enemy, they hate all that is good and just in the world, all they know is war and submission.
I don’t think even Trump supporters are that horrible people. At worst, tankies are falling for Russian/Chinese/etc… propaganda, possibly due to overcorrecting from American propaganda. None of us are immune to propaganda.
Tankies are just MAGA after their regime takes root. What the CCP does to Uighurs and Tibetans is what Trump WISHES he could do. China and Russia are constantly trying to expand borders. They’re a threat to continued life on this earth, they hate us, and they’re spending massive amounts of money to spread propaganda and do us as much harm as possible.
If you want evidence of that, just look at how TikTok, a Beijing run military psyop, did everything in its power to reelect Trump in 2024 by voluntarily turning off services and blaming the Biden admin, then turning back on to thank him after the election. Trump was the Russian and Chinese backed candidate.
I think we might be having a misunderstanding. I thought of “tankies” as denizens of lemmy.ml and similar places, likely not even being Russian or Chinese themselves or living there.
I’m pretty sure you are right about Chinese and Russian imperialism. However, the average person anywhere is not a knowing supporter of imperialism themselves… that’s where propaganda comes into play.
I chill with the bears all day and nobody says that. You seem to be extremely reactionary to that ideology and I think you should step back and look at how polarized you are. It can’t be a healthy mindset. I mean you immediately responded like this and downvoted me for saying something pretty benign from a software development angle.
For a mental exercise, you oppose ethnic cleansing of muslim groups such as the genocide in Gaza and Lebanon, right?
You’re gonna wrap this back around to China and the Uyghurs like I’m in love with China or some shit, aren’t you?
Correct.
Damn, I had the popcorn ready and everything…
You’re one of the most diligent apologists for the netanyahu/biden/harris administration.
I’ve never apologized for Netanyahu, I’ve been insulting that pos for like 2 decades.
Also, this you?
It must be a grave insult how you carry water for his pets biden and harris.
It is. Centrists will be like “it’s not voting for genocide to vote for harm reduction!” and then turn around and be like “YOU SUPPORT GENOCIDE BECAUSE YOU DID WHAT I SAID TO DO!”
That’s already plural. It’s like a hat on a hat.
Ahem…
I may not always fail to properly trigger transparency but when I don’t, I’ll don’t it in style.
Can we please make it be “social’s media”?
Like attorneys general
I can’t say\read\type media without hearing “medias” in a 2 IQ southern american accent. Sorry.
lots of little islands of censorship
great
You’re right we should all just go back to the centralized mainland of censorship