Whenever I talk to any Democrat supporters, they by-default cheer their Presidents and then I’ve to remind them of their leader’s illegal wars and war crimes. They condemn those acts and they go back to their cheerleading role - Why do they keep forgetting atrocities committed by their leaders? Why do they accept war criminals as their leader?

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    Because the alternate is literally fascism. Until we do away with first past the post, there are only two real choices. And if you don’t choose the lesser of two evils, then you’re part of the problem and you’re literally responsible for people dying.

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      The question was about behavior. Imagine if there are 4 children - Voting Blue kills 2 children and voting Red kills 3 children. By voting Blue - we’ve saved 1 child and start celebrating. The problem here is the behavior of cheering such leadership, by cheering we’re burying the core problem of “Child killing” and erasing the acknowledgement of “No child should be killed” ideal from the mind of the masses.

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      Yeah. The criticism of Biden in Gaza was valid, but Gaza wasn’t on the ballot in 2024. A Trump election meant US support of more Israeli aggression.

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        Well. It was on the ballot. It just wasn’t likely to win because it wasn’t an issue considered important by the two major parties. You could have voted PSL or Green or one of the other parties, as over three million people did in the last election.

        Besides, by that logic, Israeli aggression wasn’t on the ballot either! Do you think Harris would have stopped Israel from starting war with Iran? The war with Iran was already beginning in 2024 before Trump even got into office. Maybe it would have taken a different form, maybe it wouldn’t have happened this year, but Israel was going to attack Iran and the US was going to follow.

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          I don’t think Harris would have bombed Iran.

          But hey, it is better to do something that feels good than something which affects change, right?

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            There was already an economic war on Iran, which was already killing people and destabilizing their government. Harris would have waited a few more years for the economic war to collapse Iran’s government and turn it into a situation similar to Syria, and only then would have started bombing. By then, Iran might not have been able to exert control over traffic through Hormuz.

            Harris would have been a better manager of the empire. Instead, we got Trump, who is on track to lose to Iran.

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                I don’t think you know what that means.

                Accelerationism would mean voting for Harris because she’d be a better manager of the empire.

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                  No. Wanting Trump to win is accelerationist because he’s going to cause the empire to fall faster due to incompetence.

                  You aren’t angry at Democrats for war crimes, you’re angry at them because they are better at governing.