I bought Plex pass years ago for £79. The new price of $749.99 is INSANE.

No wonder all the cool people are using Jellyfin.

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    You know that even if you paid that ridiculous amount, it still wouldn’t be the last time they try to get money out of you, either.

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    Been on jellyfin since day one. Works fine, UI is great and gets the job done. TV UI maybe not top notch, buy usable. Mobile UI just fine and usable.

    Also, exposed on the internet (reverse proxy, OIDC, https the works) for years now with zero issues whatsoever as well .

    There are a few users always throwing thrash on jellyfin, maybe pissed off users that paid for Plex, or Plex shills that like to denigrate jellyfin, I don’t know.

    Just ignore them.

    Jellyfin is perfectly usable, yes you need to setup port forward, VPN or whatever, but it’s exactly our target audience so move along and stop bitching, Plex shills.

    Stay with Plex, use jellyfin, whatever fit your bill.

    Anyway plex does not fit my concept of self hosting to be free from cloud lock ins.

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    Tried it once, it’s features and quality were so lacking I stuck with Jellyfin. I’d charge Plex $4999.99 monthly to let their software stay in my devices.

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    I tried Plex once, before I knew about jellyfin. I just wanted an open-source self-hostable media server with my own media.

    When I tried it, after installing Plex, I was presented with a login for a Plex hosted account. Iirc that was optional and I skipped it, after that came the nags for Plex pass. Piss off. That’s exactly the opposite of what I wanted out of something like jellyfin.

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      Oh yeah and apparently you can’t stream remotely without a subscription either? If it were a feature they had to spend time on I’d still not want to use it, but I’d understand at least.

      From the application’s point of view, there is no difference between internet and intranet access. I just saw that downloading the media you already own, using your own infrastructure, requires an even more expensive subscription.

      How tf did people stick around with this shit for so long.

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        Haven’t used it myself, but wouldn’t something like Tailscale solve the remote access limitation?

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        The same reason most foss projects are barren. Plex focuses on ease of use and giving people what they want. Users mostly don’t care about the sub. It’s easy to use and works.

        Meanwhile jellyfin doesn’t have a remote first interface that isn’t absolute dog shit and I need to set up a reverse proxy and potentially idp to get the ability for my family to log in.

        This shit isn’t hard. The answer to the community is, make the product better, and start bundling shit in. But I’m sure I’ve already offended some nerd who thinks this is all just so easy and requires no work to tell me I just need to learn Linux better. And that putting in a reverse proxy by default will make maintenance a pain and I just have to put portainer and LE to fix it.

        The shit y’all are bitching about is the problem.

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          This shit isn’t hard

          Well it certainly would be hard for me, as I don’t know anything about the UX needed for these features, and very little about networking in general, and probably close to zero about the networking concepts required to make something like you describe work.

          But it sounds like you know a lot, jellyfin is a project that is 100% volunteer developed. Maybe you could contribute your expertise either via code or by providing a concrete action plan to the jellyfin team?

          Be the change you want to see and all that.

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            This is peak Linux nerd shit.

            No. I payed $200 and Plex is better. My needs have been perfectly met for the past 10l5 years and foreseeable future.

            Second, fuck off with this attitude. I came here answering a question how, ‘ohhhh it’s so fucking complicated why normies might want to pay’ with 2 concrete use cases and you immediately go off with that nerd bullshit that I need to contribute more.

            I had 3 prs hit main in Apache last week. Fuck off, your nerd shit isn’t helping adoption asshole.

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                No my time is just more valuable to me and I have money 🤷‍♂️

                Love offending the nerds with no familyies hunched over a desk all day 🤣

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          Most FOSS projects are barren? Huh

          I’m here to say it’s all very easy and requires no work.

          Seriously, you literally just install Jellyfin (or run it in Docker), set up nginx with certbot and make a port forward on your router. Zero maintenance at all.

          Any LLM can give you a complete step-by-step guide that takes 10 minutes to follow if you don’t know what you’re doing.

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            I cannot understate how bad of an idea it is to expose something to the Internet when you don’t know what you’re doing.

            Jellyfin is not designed to be exposed directly. They have a number of outstanding security issues. You should really use a VPN to access your local network instead.

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              ADHD linux zealots will argue anything, no matter how stupid, if you dare hold any comparison to a commercial product. It’s literally built into their ADHD brains need to argue and be right.

              They will sit there and argue insane shit and pretend like most people have a desktop sitting in their living room much less setting up an entire *arr stack with reverse proxy. And then scream at you when you say that sounds like work I don’t have to do for less than a hamburger meal.

              It’s easy bro, just learn docker, get it set up so that services boot at launch, and I’m sure nothing will never break or need to be updated again.

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            You are absolutely right about all of that, I did it exactly like that, had ChatGPT tell me what to do and done. I am not an IT person, but I still like messing with tech. But that’s more than 95% of people are willing to do, and that’s why people use plex. Takes literally a minute to set up and it just runs. That’s why people choose Apple. Simple and easy, little to no maintenance. That doesn’t make it a great product, but an accessible one, and that’s what counts for most people

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    Was any justification provided for a nearly 10x price increase!?

    Glad I started with Jellyfin

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      It’s because lifetime licenses aren’t sustainable. I’m surprised they still offer it.

      Plex is an actual company that has an office and employees, so they have recurring costs every month. A lot of people already have lifetime licenses that they’re not likely to receive any more revenue from. It’s likely they’re increasing the price to help recoup costs or convince people to subscribe to a monthly subscription rather than get a lifetime license.

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    Monthly rates remain unchanged. The sales of lifetime passes at this point was pretty rare anyway.

    I see this as nothing more than an opportunity for those who hate and don’t use plex to complain over something that doesn’t affect them.

    But I suppose there’s nothing strange here about people complaining about a valuable paid service when a far inferior alternative is free.

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        What a nasty and horrible attitude.

        Admitting your ignorance before making an ignorant comment does not imbue honor or value to it.

        It will be a pleasure to block you

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      I might remind you that something doesn’t have to effect you to complain about it, it’s called empathy

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    I’m still using it because I already have a lifetime license. I’m just using it for music and local TV though. I use the DVR feature with a HDHomeRun tuner to record the local news and a few other shows.

    I think Jellyfin has some music apps, but last I checked they’re still not as good as Plexamp.

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    Isn’t jellyfin full of security vulnerabilities? (Not to defend Plex, just a thought. This is why I don’t have a video streaming server at all.)

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      You can avoid most security issues (with any sort of server) by not exposing it publicly. Use a VPN like Tailscale to connect remotely. If you share the server with friends or family, share it with them over Tailscale and use an ACL to configure which services they can access on your server.