Wikipedia says

Marbury is regarded as the single most important decision in American constitutional law. It established that the U.S. Constitution is actually law, not merely a statement of political principles and ideals.

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    Marbury v. Madison established the right for the US Supreme Court to strike down laws that violate the Constitution. Overturning Marbury would turn the Supreme Court into a court of review, meaning they only apply the law as written. They would lose the power to invalidate statutes. Some countries with civil systems do have high courts like that. It wouldn’t be the end of the world. We just generally believe that adding checks and balances encourages a healthy government.

    So, no. Overturning Marbury does not make the Constitution not the law. The Constitution is the law because the drafters signed it and the legislatures enacted it. The only way to get rid of it legally is to pass a new constitution in the same way.

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      Overturning Marbury would turn the Supreme Court into a court of review, meaning they only apply the law as written.

      This is correct as to what SCOTUS can pass final judgement upon. What would be unaffected would be theirs powers in equity, which show up prominently when it comes to preliminary injunctions. So in a world without Marbury, a lawsuit against the federal government challenging the constitutionality of a particular law could not proceed, because SCOTUS (and by extension, all inferior federal courts) wouldn’t be able to rule on that question.

      But if instead, a lawsuit challenges whether the federal government followed the procedures defined in law, or if there is ambiguity as to how the law might be interpreted, then SCOTUS would still have the power to intervene while the case progresses – which would typically restore the status quo, but the current SCOTUS seems allergic to that – and then could pass judgement in law on how a statute is read, or in equity on how ambiguity is resolved. Litigants would change their tactics to adapt to this environment.

      This is part for core, raw power that the court retains, even without Marbury: it can, at great reputational cost, read a statute that says “no parking on Tuesday” to mean any of: 1) no parking on any Tuesday of any week, 2) no parking on only the Tuesday following the passage of the statute, and then parking is always permitted thereafter, 3) parking of automobiles is banned nationwide, but only in National Parks because of their “uniquely structured, quasi-private entity with a distinct historical tradition”, even when this openly contradicts history.

      The power to say what words mean is awe-inducing but also terrifying, one that can maintain good governance but can also turn into an Orwellian double-plus bad nightmare.

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      I’d say the big issue is the amount of Supreme Court decisions that are essentially laws that don’t exist

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      I wonder how much damage it would do to the US letting the policymakers of today draft up a new constitution. I wonder how different it would be.

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        Martin Bormann Mike Johnson (Head of the Nazi Republican Party Chancellery): Capturing the dogma of the Führerprinzip (leadership principle), Bormann Johnson stated: “All depends on him, he alone sustains morale, he is invariably right, he is our hope and trust.”

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        Every corporation has the freedom of speech (measured by profit).

        Every corporation has the right to employ bearers of arms, including autonomous bearers of arms.

        Every corporation has the right to the money of the consumers, be it through purchases, taxation, or some combination of both.